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for the masses headline edition july 8th

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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the global radio alliance

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you are listening to fate to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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bespoke radio

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all right how you doing today is

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wednesday april 28

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2021 119 days into the new year

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only 246 days left

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of beautiful downtown

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nowhere

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a total undisclosed location

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it is beautiful i would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tither to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south

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far and near this is fade to black for

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a the planets our mules jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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all right

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tonight very special guest richard dolan

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he's gonna be with us at the bottom of

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tomorrow night well i get to tomorrow

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night in just a bit

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but uh tomorrow night is a is a very

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special fader night

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yeah long day today long day

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but the show must go on

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all right and uh

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i'm not going to play around here i just

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want to say a couple of things really

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i'm going to be at the ufo mega con june

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6th through the 12th i would love to see

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you there

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come and hang out with us go over to

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jimmychurchradio.com click on that

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banner that says ufo megacon

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go and get your tickets all right

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is that easy enough head over to

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all right click right there and uh

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support this show

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with all of our sponsors that we have

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um and uh support the show okay

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you can start right there as you can see

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i have been on twitter

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all day and uh you know why

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it uh it has been a very long day but

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at j church radio hello to everybody

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over on youtube

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facebook the bunker cam

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chat rooms are open and uh there you go

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all right email is jimmy

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jimmychurchradio.com you have any

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hashtag f2bq is fade to black questions

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you can also email throughout the show

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all right i'm going to get straight to

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uh o.g fate or not friend and producer

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for fade to black

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kevin kerber left this earth yesterday

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at his home in texas

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rita and i send all of our thoughts

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prayers and condolences to the kerber

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family

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and this has been a very trying day i

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spoke with his sister karen

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at length today karen if you're

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our thoughts are with you um and

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there you go i will share everything

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with you tomorrow night

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uh when we will spend the entire show

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remembering the life and times of our

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dear friend and colleague

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kevin kerber tonight the show must go on

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and it is dedicated to kevin born on the

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4th of july 1958 departing

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to the other side yesterday on april 27

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um i was speaking with rita earlier

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and there's just no way i am ready to

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to go there tonight at length i'm just

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not going to lose it here on the show

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and i'm about to lose it right now and i

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okay so tomorrow night we'll get through

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thank you for everybody out there uh

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your support and uh surely okay i said i

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wasn't gonna do this but surely

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kevin right now is uh is looking at all

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of your words

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and uh is is very happy and proud

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of the family that surrounded him here

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at fade to black

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with that let's move on let's get the

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happy birthday to today jay leno is

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she's 47. i'm not buying that and

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margaret today

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is 80. keyboard great

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chuck level today is 68 years old

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incredible life um allman brothers

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of course he's been the musical director

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of the rolling stones

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there you go all right our dead guy's

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birthday today is

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ferruccio lamborghini 1916 to 1993

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died at the age of 76. uh

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oil heaters and air conditioning and

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farm tractors but then the magic

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lamborghini sports cars of course and

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suffering a heart attack 15 days earlier

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happy birthday you know just call him

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lambo

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on this day in history otd 1967

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boxing champion muhammad ali refuses to

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be inducted into the united states army

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and is immediately stripped of his

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heavyweight title on this day in 1967

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the 1972 tv show kung fu

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right not hong kong phooey i'm talking

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about kung fu

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kung fu 1972 ended after

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its star david carradine

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it was a top-rated show wasn't canceled

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because of

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ratings he just got beat up man he said

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i can't do another season

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and that is your fader fact

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tonight we have very special guest

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richard dolan is joining us

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at the bottom of the hour and uh

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tomorrow night is a very special fader

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uh it uh it's gonna be a a show

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remembering the life of our friend and

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colleague

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kevin kerber so we're going to do that

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tomorrow night i want to take all of

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your phone calls and

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we'll have some memories we'll have some

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we'll spend the night talking about

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kevin and we'll have a good time doing

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it too

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so that's tomorrow night but right now

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on this program this is where i normally

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take a swig of this uh

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i almost said life change tea

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take a swig of this river moon coffee

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best coffee in the world

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rivermoonwellness.com but

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right now joining us on the program the

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one and only

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ronnie mcmullen ronnie what are you

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doing man

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i am watching you brother how you doing

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uh how fun is that i always feel like

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somebody's watching me

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right on ronnie right on and uh

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double batch of the tea got brewed this

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you're the very best how you doing how's

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your world you know my world's good

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i notice the more we resist things we

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don't like it's more about looking at

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our own control so

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resist it's hard on the body

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i don't even know what that meant i'm

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not even sure

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ronnie thank you for helping us change

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the world

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uh changing my life and uh of course all

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the fader knots and

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and the support that they give uh life

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and the support that you've given us

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over the years um

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and and i truly mean that and uh i don't

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know what we would

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do without you um i can i say this

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you know you've been a sponsor here for

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a long time and

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your logo is like right here right

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it's it's here and i'm out there goofing

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around on the net

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and i'm seeing your logo and

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and things out there in in the

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you are uh truly like metropolitan

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international man well we're trying

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um i have to say i'm very excited for

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people that help us as well

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shows like yourself and um and we

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sponsor a race car and uh this year we

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have a brand new race car

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and for those that have that are motor

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heads we're running about 545 horsepower

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on the dirt and it's going to be quite

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um we can actually keep up with trophy

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trucks which is kind of the

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thing in off-road racing so we're very

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excited about that and of course it is

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the t-car

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so it says get the t the t that makes

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what go now uh can can i

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can i race your truck with my jeep

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i think my jeep could take it do you

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want to race my truck

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i think my jeep could take a bit okay i

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think

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yeah i got some high octane i run on

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high octane gas

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oh that's good yeah that's good your

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engine will last at least a week longer

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yeah there you go i'm just kidding there

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you go

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well um ronnie uh what

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is going on over on the website what

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kind of specials do you have going what

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can we talk about

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well we should talk about kind of being

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ready and that doesn't mean go buy four

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tons of stuff that's not where i'm at

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i'm more at being ready with in the

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world is weird right now so

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it's probably a good idea to keep your

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immune system up

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if your immune system is down if it's

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compromised by any

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way shape or form bad water bad air

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bad food then you compromise yourself to

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catch

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a disease and you don't want a disease

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and and it's kind of simple people

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go after the fact after they got

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something and then they take a bunch of

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stuff and they're faithful about it oh

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i'm going to take this and this and this

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because i feel like crap

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how about taking just a little bit

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before you get sick

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and you'll be feeling good and this will

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involve our special for tonight but real

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quick i just want to talk about alice in

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advance

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your immune system up so is the

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colostrum

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so is the pre and probiotics so we have

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things more than one

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um you don't have to get all of them but

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get at least one of them and i would say

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allison and colostrum at the top of the

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list

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yeah ed um somebody asked me the other

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day

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and i am so glad you're on the show

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tonight

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vegan yes yeah i think it is because it

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it's not a plant no vegan

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is is it vegan vegetarian is it vegan

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oh it depends on what you know everybody

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has a different lifestyle of what their

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guest is yes i mean would you would you

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classify it it was just

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really funny because um

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the person that i was talking uh to

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about colostrum and i had some right and

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so they're reading it

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i'm saying and is it is it vegan

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and i couldn't answer that i don't

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i don't think it is because it's a milk

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product

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okay and so if i remember right vegans

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don't do milk cheese and

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all of that so i would i would probably

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i don't know exactly for a fact

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this is a maybe a trick question but

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i'll lean to the fact that it's not

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yeah we'll see um uh i'm glad that you

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were stumped

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so i'm going to flip this over you know

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the fader knots are really smart

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so would you probably chat right now and

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they'll say yeah it's vegan it's vegan

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or no it's not it's not

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well and the point is even if you are

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vegan

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you will bend the rules if you have to

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okay you will you will i mean your

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health is what is most important

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so my question is if you are vegan

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would you take colostrum

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and i was vegan for five months and i'll

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tell you i took colostrum because it's

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such a protector of the gut

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yes exactly right exactly right

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and i'll tell you something funny about

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vegans when nobody's around

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carne asada tacos i guarantee it man

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i guarantee it i guarantee it they go

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outside throw the wrapper in the trash

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can in their neighbor's trash can

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right i get it it's okay it's okay we

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love you

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you know the other thing that's

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interesting too is i was vegan for five

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months

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and it you know it helps some some

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special things but

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people that have been vegan for 20 years

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they're not exactly the most healthy

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people and i'm not

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trying to bag on vegan if that's what

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you choose to do that's great

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well it's a lot yeah it's a lifestyle i

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mean it's a lifestyle it's about

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the environment and and and animal

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rights and things it's not necessarily a

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diet it's more of a lifestyle and things

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which i totally respect i i totally get

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it

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is back when i was 21 and this whole

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vegetarian thing was catching on and i

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thought okay you know i'm going to do

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that and i did it i i've

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told the story before i that i did it

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for two years i don't think i did it for

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two years i did it

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solidly for one though and

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uh and the manager of our band took us

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all

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out to dinner and took us to

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benihana's now

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i'm sitting there i haven't had red meat

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in a year

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i haven't done anything burgers and and

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stuff and i was

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i was dedicated to it and i'm smelling

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the stuff right i'm like screw it man

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i'm going all in that night at this

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i don't it was anyhow it was a japanese

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and my reaction to it was

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and and i thought i'm gonna die but at

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least i'm i'm going out

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uh in style and and i woke up the next

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day and i felt fine

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and i i just jumped off the wagon i i

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jumped off the wagon

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it uh and i never looked back that's you

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know

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it was just really weird it was okay

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back to it let's get back to

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so vegan and colostrum okay so there's

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that

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and um and talking about allison

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uh which i think is also very important

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and i carry that stuff with me wherever

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i go and i also take 365 with me too as

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well d365

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um everywhere i go um i think it's very

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important my immune system

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is uh topped off and i try to keep it

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that way

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what is the best way to do it one of

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your specials

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ronnie right now is uh

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the bee pollen and super tea special

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if if somebody is is b pollen

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an immune system builder two as well

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yeah b

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pollen is it's also great for allergies

450
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which is kind of perfect for this time

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of the year

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right and yeah

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keep going i enter i interrupted i'm

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just saying that uh bee pollen they

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haven't even got to the bottom of all

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the things it does for the human body

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i guess the bees have contracts or

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something i'm not sure

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right and uh

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and and uh good gut is on special and

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this is on your home page as well as the

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yep ronnie

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so we've got colostrum here and now i

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just got the pre

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and probiotic uh from you

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um and we've discussed this a little bit

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before

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um on the show but what can you tell me

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about it i want to start taking it what

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is that going to do for me

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uh immune builder yet again

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it's kind of like i said it's pre and

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it's pro probiotic

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biotic is life pro meaning pro-life

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so when you take an antibiotic well you

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can figure that one out

477
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so it's kind of interesting the wording

478
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of things and it's kind of interesting

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how people

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use things like my doctor i didn't know

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doctors go to people and hey can i be

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your doctor

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no it's my doctor no it's my doctor so

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we just been trained

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and i find it interesting none of the

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insurance companies will cover you

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if you buy natural products gmo free any

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kind of

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supplement they will not cover it but if

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you get a drug

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they will cover it so it seems that

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world out there is a little jaded so for

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those of you that want to be all natural

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and you don't want the side effects of

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drugs

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then you know have a great time and i'm

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going to go ahead and throw the special

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out there now

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because it's uh that way we don't get

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caught and you guys

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get your special and i think this is a

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great special

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um in fact i think it's a wonderful

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special for the fader knots

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you always get free shipping and that's

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you know that's cool but

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let's sweeten the pack let's sweeten the

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deal

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so for the next until the second

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of may you're going to be able to spend

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dollars on whatever you want sixty bucks

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whatever you want whatever you you want

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allison you want

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colostrum you want bee pollen it doesn't

515
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matter if you spend over 60 bucks

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you're going to get a free did you hear

517
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my word free

518
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bottle of bilberry which is wonderful

519
00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:13,520
for immune system and also wonderful for

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the eyes

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and you're going to get free shipping so

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this is a beautiful thing free bilberry

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and free shipping all you have to do is

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put fader in the coupon code hit apply

525
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and you are ready

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to go wow that's uh so you're going to

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get free shipping

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you're going to get the free bottle of

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bilberry and you're going to get

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allison or whatever it is

531
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for 60 bucks right yeah understanding

532
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that correctly you can spend 60 bucks or

533
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more or whatever but

534
00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:46,799
as long as you get to the 60 mark you

535
00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:48,960
can get a free bottle of bilberry

536
00:23:55,430 --> 00:23:52,320
and free shipping that's a

537
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and and tell me about bilberry

538
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again eyes and immunity and the eyes

539
00:24:02,789 --> 00:24:00,799
people don't realize you know like we

540
00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:02,799
have astaxanthin that's eyes for two so

541
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if you're having eye troubles

542
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you might want to grab into the

543
00:24:11,590 --> 00:24:09,440
astaxanthin or the bio aston which is

544
00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:11,600
astaxanthin as well and these are all

545
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things that will help your eyes

546
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and strengthen your eyes because with

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computers

548
00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:19,120
and all the videos and facebook and blah

549
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blah blah

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looking at all that's not exactly good

551
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for your eyes

552
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and it tires them out and weakens them

553
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out and stresses them out

554
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and you get little blotches and you not

555
00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:31,279
feel good and when you don't see you can

556
00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:32,799
have headaches it just triggers

557
00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:35,039
so many things so keep your eyes healthy

558
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and bilberry is a great way to do it

559
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and how important see this is the thing

560
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when we talk about uh supplements

561
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for the immune system whether it's bee

562
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pollen or

563
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or or what have you that are building

564
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your immune system

565
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you need to also uh think about the t

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and cleaning out your system first

567
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before you go all in isn't that the the

568
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most important first step

569
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you know you are trained my friend you

570
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have done it you've passed the test

571
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because the key is you've got to clean

572
00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:13,520
yourself out because then

573
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if you don't let's just say you go okay

574
00:25:17,909 --> 00:25:16,960
i'm going to get some of these up that's

575
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all good

576
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:20,720
but they're not going to work as well so

577
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it's kind of like you know putting new

578
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tires on the car you need to get

579
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and put new tires in the car which is

580
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cleaning your body first with the tea

581
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the tea that makes you go use it any way

582
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you want um

583
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and then put your supplements in there

584
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and it's like a rocket booster

585
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it just rocks your world now i like uh

586
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i like the pomegranate tea i like the

587
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original um

588
00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:45,520
uh tea probably the best uh

589
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but the pomegranate tea is is

590
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amazing is the formulation the same

591
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just with flavor is is that the

592
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difference

593
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yeah it's exactly the same formula

594
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except it has flavoring

595
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of pomegranate which is organic

596
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obviously and

597
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it has a little bit of stevia no sugar

598
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no caffeine we don't break the rules

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here

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and uh and everybody in the fader knots

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please be

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uh sending your positive energy to get

603
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the tea because we are going after to

604
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try to bottle it so that you don't have

605
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to boil it anymore you can just buy it

606
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just like you can a rock star so that's

607
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our goal

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is to

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walk into a convenience store and have

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get the tea chilled in one of those

611
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refrigerators

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yep and you'll be working on your gut

613
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right there

614
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and uh yes exactly it's really the tea

615
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it's good for you

616
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i think these energy drinks is funny

617
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:45,039
like here have energy drinking all this

618
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sugar and have all

619
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energy having all this caffeine i think

620
00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:50,080
it's interesting because those jack your

621
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body up

622
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so what if you could get a drink that

623
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was already made and it was good for

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your body

625
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good for your complexion good for your

626
00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:58,559
eyes good for your stomach

627
00:27:02,070 --> 00:27:00,960
what would that be like well it you know

628
00:27:05,350 --> 00:27:02,080
what's weird

629
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uh probably 10 years ago those energy

630
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drinks

631
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:09,520
um i thought that i needed them

632
00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:12,159
and i and you know i still drink as much

633
00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:13,679
coffee back then as i do

634
00:27:19,750 --> 00:27:18,240
now but i stopped drinking energy drinks

635
00:27:22,149 --> 00:27:19,760
a long time ago

636
00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:22,159
i get my energy from get the tea and of

637
00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:24,720
course you know caffeine i drink coffee

638
00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:28,000
but i i i just don't do that i don't do

639
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:31,600
anything fun right i

640
00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:34,480
just don't do it anymore i i i don't do

641
00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:36,240
it we're in and out burgers

642
00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:38,720
oh no come on that'll never leave it see

643
00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:40,240
but that's different

644
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:42,159
well wait a minute wait a minute there

645
00:27:49,110 --> 00:27:43,919
are look

646
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if if god came to me and said

647
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you need to stop eating in-n-out burgers

648
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or

649
00:27:58,230 --> 00:27:55,120
we got problems and be like we got

650
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we got problems we got issues you know

651
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:02,880
there's just you know um

652
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:05,039
because i think all of this ronnie and

653
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and i really mean this i want everybody

654
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to listen to me

655
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um i have really straight and

656
00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:14,480
i do the i'm not perfect but i've really

657
00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:16,000
straightened out who i

658
00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:18,799
am compared to who i was 10 years ago 15

659
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years ago

660
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:21,520
i'm a totally different person with my

661
00:28:25,430 --> 00:28:22,640
diet and things

662
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:25,440
but there are just certain things that

663
00:28:29,669 --> 00:28:26,399
make me

664
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:29,679
happy right and and that's it they just

665
00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:32,320
make me happy in and out is one of them

666
00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:34,640
it it just is an in and out double

667
00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:37,120
double and a chocolate shake

668
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:40,240
if that's bad for me then then i i'm

669
00:28:42,549 --> 00:28:41,600
just gonna have to take it i'm gonna

670
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:42,559
have to work with it

671
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:45,840
i already gave up sodas i gave up

672
00:28:51,909 --> 00:28:48,880
milk i gave up cereal um

673
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:51,919
i gave up essentially i gave up drinking

674
00:28:55,269 --> 00:28:54,000
i don't do anything i don't do anything

675
00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:55,279
fun right

676
00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:58,640
i just don't do it so gotta be doing one

677
00:29:01,909 --> 00:29:00,240
thing that's fun

678
00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:01,919
and that's what's behind you playing

679
00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:03,440
guitar yeah that's right uh

680
00:29:07,750 --> 00:29:06,320
doing this show every night is my bliss

681
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:07,760
hanging out with you hanging out with

682
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:09,120
the fader knots

683
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:11,279
and uh being able to walk into the

684
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:12,640
studio and

685
00:29:15,909 --> 00:29:14,880
you know seeing those guitars and being

686
00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:15,919
able to pick one down

687
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:18,880
off the wall and grabbing a guitar pick

688
00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:19,200
and

689
00:29:25,909 --> 00:29:23,039
something for 20 30 seconds

690
00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:25,919
that's what makes me happy so i'm gonna

691
00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:26,960
ask you a question

692
00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:28,559
sure i don't always watch your show i'm

693
00:29:32,789 --> 00:29:30,320
terrible to say that and the fader knots

694
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:32,799
you can beat me on that and that's okay

695
00:29:39,909 --> 00:29:36,480
um do you ever pull a guitar off the

696
00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:39,919
wall and play it on air so people can

697
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:41,840
watch you and listen to you play

698
00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:44,240
more than 30 seconds like maybe a three

699
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minute clip

700
00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:47,440
and i want to thank ronnie mcmullen for

701
00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:48,799
coming on the show

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00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:52,399
ronnie is the very best getty.com

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is the website he's got a bunch of

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specials but right now

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okay fader will always get you free

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shipping but right now through may 2nd

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for the fader knots

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60 bucks we'll get you a free bottle of

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bilberry and you're gonna get

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free shipping go and do it now ronnie

711
00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:11,679
thank you so much man you're the very

712
00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:14,799
very best man thank you so much love you

713
00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:15,360
brother

714
00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:18,240
right back at you ronnie mcmullen life

715
00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:18,960
change t

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00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:21,200
this is fade to black i've got to take a

717
00:30:24,310 --> 00:30:22,799
break right here

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00:30:26,470 --> 00:30:24,320
that's right and the game changer

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network and kgra

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the planet i'll be right back after this

721
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short break with our guest

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richard dolan he's in the queue he's

723
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right there

724
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that's right richard bleep and dolan is

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next

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00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:40,720
this show is dedicated to kevin kerber

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00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:44,480
tomorrow night fader night all kevin

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00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:46,960
all night long i'll be right back after

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this short break with our guest richard

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[Music]

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you can do today

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is to stockpile emergency food water

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000 calories a day saving 20 helps too

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doesn't it especially now so go to

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prepare with jimmy.com and get ready

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that's prepare with jimmy.com there's no

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time to lose

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nine out of ten geneticists agree

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fade to black is not

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and kgra the planet

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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you're listening to jimmy

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churchradio.com

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what's up i'm chris what up this is

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to block i'm hosting

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the church tonight richard dolan

839
00:36:01,589 --> 00:36:01,200
is back with us tomorrow night fader

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night

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dedicated to remembering the life of our

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00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:08,079
friend

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00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:09,920
producer and colleague here at fade to

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00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:11,760
black kevin kerber

845
00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:15,119
who passed away yesterday

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00:36:19,109 --> 00:36:17,599
and that will be tomorrow night uh here

847
00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:19,119
on fade to block so get ready for that

848
00:36:23,109 --> 00:36:20,800
your phone calls

849
00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:23,119
and uh let's have some fun let's laugh

850
00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:25,599
and uh talk about kevin all night long

851
00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:28,400
as it should be but tonight it's richard

852
00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:29,119
and

853
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:31,359
we are going to be talking about a bunch

854
00:36:33,589 --> 00:36:32,480
of stuff tonight we're going to talk

855
00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:33,599
about the recently

856
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:36,880
leaked u.s navy flying pyramid that

857
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:37,440
video

858
00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:39,359
the other images that were released

859
00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:40,960
we're going to talk about

860
00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:44,320
the uap task force and that report and

861
00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:46,240
we're going to go back and look at

862
00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:47,599
richard's

863
00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:50,640
recent uh discussions about

864
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:53,440
the davis wilson wilson davis you say

865
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:54,000
tomato

866
00:37:01,589 --> 00:37:01,200
that is the gift that keeps on giving

867
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:01,599
and

868
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:04,800
more tonight with richard

869
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:06,640
and we all know that richard is one of

870
00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:08,320
the world's leading researchers and

871
00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:09,119
writers

872
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:11,359
on the subject of ufos but he is also

873
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:13,760
somebody that people pay attention to

874
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:16,320
and respect richard completed his

875
00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:18,160
graduate work at the university of

876
00:37:21,670 --> 00:37:19,200
rochester

877
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:21,680
where he studied u.s cold war strategy

878
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:23,520
european history and international

879
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:24,640
diplomacy

880
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:26,800
and he also studied at alfred university

881
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:28,480
and oxford university and let me tell

882
00:37:33,990 --> 00:37:30,720
you something if i went back to school

883
00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:34,000
that's what i would study i would study

884
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:37,040
history the absolute best he also hosts

885
00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:37,440
his

886
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:40,160
weekly radio show the richard dolan show

887
00:37:44,069 --> 00:37:41,359
on kg r

888
00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:44,079
a radio he's out there live streaming on

889
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:45,119
youtube

890
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:47,119
he's doing his research he's hanging out

891
00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:48,800
he is the best and he will

892
00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:52,240
also be with us at ufo megacon

893
00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:55,040
this june 6th through the 12th in

894
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:56,480
laughlin nevada

895
00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:58,320
so come and hang out with richard and i

896
00:38:01,109 --> 00:37:59,760
come by and say hi

897
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:01,119
and i would like to welcome back to the

898
00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:02,640
program the one and only richard dolan

899
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:04,160
richard good evening my man how you

900
00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:04,800
doing

901
00:38:10,069 --> 00:38:07,839
hi jimmy happy to be here thank you that

902
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:10,079
was nice

903
00:38:14,310 --> 00:38:13,200
you know um uh one of these days i'm

904
00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:14,320
just gonna write up

905
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:18,160
uh a hoaxed bio for you

906
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:20,480
yeah yeah i'm just gonna go for it man

907
00:38:23,589 --> 00:38:22,560
i'm gonna go for it don't do it on april

908
00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:23,599
fool's everyone will know

909
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:26,640
i know well yeah you know what you know

910
00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:28,000
let me write that down

911
00:38:35,829 --> 00:38:32,000
not on april not on april fool's

912
00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:35,839
um richard yes

913
00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:39,119
is this okay

914
00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:42,560
how many times over the years

915
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:45,440
have i asked you think now really think

916
00:38:50,069 --> 00:38:48,480
about this i'm talking about pre-2017

917
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:50,079
how many times have i said to you is

918
00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:52,320
this the craziest times

919
00:38:59,510 --> 00:38:55,760
ever for the ufo subject right and

920
00:39:01,030 --> 00:38:59,520
and and and i started talking in 2012 i

921
00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:01,040
think yeah and i think we've been having

922
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:02,320
this conversation since then

923
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:05,040
yes yes and i have to start off the show

924
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:07,040
with that tonight

925
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:10,400
is this the craziest time ever yes

926
00:39:15,190 --> 00:39:14,320
this is i think this is actually i like

927
00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:15,200
it

928
00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:20,880
insane

929
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:22,800
you know i mean and the ufo situation

930
00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:24,640
maybe i think is reflecting

931
00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:26,560
some of the greater insanity of the

932
00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:28,400
world around us but it's

933
00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:30,640
it's the world it's crazy and we're just

934
00:39:35,109 --> 00:39:31,599
along for the ride

935
00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:35,119
you know and that's such a good point if

936
00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:37,119
if we didn't have the pandemic if we

937
00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:39,040
didn't have the elections last year

938
00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:41,599
if we didn't have all the other drama in

939
00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:44,720
the social issues that are now front and

940
00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:45,839
center

941
00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:49,280
uh of which there are hundreds of them

942
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:52,480
uh if none of that went on

943
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:55,119
how visible would the ufo subject have

944
00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:55,680
been

945
00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:01,280
little bit buried because of the other

946
00:40:04,550 --> 00:40:03,520
things that we've been dealing with i

947
00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:04,560
agree

948
00:40:08,550 --> 00:40:06,560
the news that we've had in the last

949
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:08,560
three little more than three years has

950
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:08,880
been

951
00:40:14,069 --> 00:40:12,000
extraordinary and it's the kind of news

952
00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:14,079
that everyone in our field you and me

953
00:40:17,589 --> 00:40:16,160
and everyone else that we know

954
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:17,599
and everyone else that we don't know had

955
00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:19,760
been hoping for

956
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:23,200
some level of openness and

957
00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:25,280
public discussion and an acknowledgement

958
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:26,800
of the reality of ufos

959
00:40:29,829 --> 00:40:28,560
like that was the bottom line we kept

960
00:40:31,829 --> 00:40:29,839
thinking when is the government when is

961
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:31,839
the military going to admit this is real

962
00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:33,839
and we you know we didn't get it

963
00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:36,160
immediately in 2017 but we got kind of

964
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:37,119
almost that

965
00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:39,440
with the new york times giving this very

966
00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:41,119
very authoritative

967
00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:44,240
establishment you know peace on it and

968
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:45,839
but we did finally get the united states

969
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:46,560
navy

970
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:48,000
admitting that yes we have these

971
00:40:51,430 --> 00:40:49,599
encounters yes we have protocols in

972
00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:51,440
place yes our pilots chase after these

973
00:40:54,550 --> 00:40:53,200
things yes we don't really know

974
00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:54,560
what they are we don't understand how

975
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:55,760
they work we don't know who's behind it

976
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:56,400
i mean

977
00:41:01,589 --> 00:40:59,359
all of those things are exactly what we

978
00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:01,599
have been

979
00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:04,480
wanting to hear for years and years and

980
00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:05,200
and i also

981
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:07,760
i think furthermore that everyone had

982
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:10,480
believed that if we got to this point

983
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:11,680
well that would just be the tipping

984
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:13,359
point for disclosure and boom we'd be

985
00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:14,640
into a whole new world and

986
00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:17,200
that's what hasn't happened very

987
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:19,119
interesting point

988
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:22,800
that's a very i mean when you get to

989
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:26,000
when you get to the edge of the cliff

990
00:41:29,109 --> 00:41:27,839
and you've got the president of the

991
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:29,119
united states

992
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:32,160
and his son right his

993
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:36,160
son his son not a reporter his son goes

994
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:38,800
so pops you know what's up with the ufos

995
00:41:41,109 --> 00:41:39,760
dude

996
00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:41,119
you know what's up with the little girls

997
00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:42,400
i can't really tell you everything i

998
00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:43,520
know

999
00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:46,319
however he said that and we got to that

1000
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:47,200
point richard

1001
00:41:50,790 --> 00:41:49,920
yeah that's right not only that but uh

1002
00:41:52,309 --> 00:41:50,800
that same

1003
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:52,319
month or a little couple of weeks later

1004
00:41:55,030 --> 00:41:54,079
lou dobbs who was a big buddy of donald

1005
00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:55,040
trump also

1006
00:42:00,390 --> 00:41:58,720
asked him on national television

1007
00:42:01,910 --> 00:42:00,400
it was kind of crazy how dobbs did that

1008
00:42:02,630 --> 00:42:01,920
as i recall it's like well a friend of

1009
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:02,640
mine

1010
00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:04,800
was really interested in this like

1011
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:06,960
obviously dobbs was into it and

1012
00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:08,319
and everyone knew that he was really

1013
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:09,839
tight with with the president at the

1014
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:10,240
time

1015
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:12,640
so he asked him and you know this is an

1016
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:14,319
issue that just kept coming up

1017
00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:16,800
this could never have happened in prior

1018
00:42:21,670 --> 00:42:17,520
years

1019
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:21,680
just but we've had it and it's

1020
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:24,800
almost like ho-hum now is that where we

1021
00:42:29,030 --> 00:42:25,760
are at

1022
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:29,040
it's crazy now here we go

1023
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:33,119
um one of the uh favorite things for me

1024
00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:34,560
to say is

1025
00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:38,720
okay right now we've got this headline

1026
00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:41,599
there's it's gonna chill out but later

1027
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:43,680
on we're gonna have an even bigger ufo

1028
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:44,880
headline

1029
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:47,680
and this isn't like the end of the story

1030
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:48,160
today

1031
00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:51,680
as great as this is there's more to come

1032
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:55,040
and sure enough we've had more and more

1033
00:42:59,589 --> 00:42:56,160
and then

1034
00:43:01,109 --> 00:42:59,599
back on april 9th which is uh almost two

1035
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:01,119
weeks ago

1036
00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:04,319
we got this breaking story uh flying

1037
00:43:09,430 --> 00:43:05,680
pyramids

1038
00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:09,440
and um this story when it broke

1039
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:13,119
um came from you know quite frankly came

1040
00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:15,520
from george knapp and mystery wire and

1041
00:43:23,190 --> 00:43:18,800
and jeremy corbell jeremy and and

1042
00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:23,200
this uh those guys especially knapp

1043
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:25,280
is going to get the attention a headline

1044
00:43:29,030 --> 00:43:26,800
like that deserves

1045
00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:29,040
right that's just the way that it is and

1046
00:43:33,349 --> 00:43:30,079
the media ran

1047
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:33,359
with it very quickly and

1048
00:43:38,230 --> 00:43:36,319
probably didn't vet the story or take a

1049
00:43:40,710 --> 00:43:38,240
look at this what was actually going on

1050
00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:40,720
now we had something else on april 15th

1051
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:43,040
but let's stay focused on you have to

1052
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:44,640
stop and say what you mean by not

1053
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:46,079
vetting the story i mean there's a lot

1054
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:46,480
of

1055
00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:49,680
technically trained people who have

1056
00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:51,280
different opinions on these videos

1057
00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:53,200
yeah absolutely they don't all agree so

1058
00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:54,720
when you're saying that

1059
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:57,680
it sounds like you're i mean you should

1060
00:44:01,670 --> 00:43:58,640
explain what you're saying

1061
00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:01,680
what i am suggesting here is

1062
00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:04,960
who is saying flying pyramids

1063
00:44:08,069 --> 00:44:07,440
where is that coming from is it coming

1064
00:44:11,829 --> 00:44:08,079
from

1065
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:11,839
united states navy

1066
00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:14,000
i might i might be able to answer that

1067
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:15,440
only because

1068
00:44:21,510 --> 00:44:18,560
a few days ago you and i sir were on

1069
00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:21,520
a like a youtube video live stream as

1070
00:44:25,349 --> 00:44:22,240
guests

1071
00:44:26,750 --> 00:44:25,359
yes for some very very nice very

1072
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:26,760
it was nice because they were like

1073
00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:29,119
enthusiastic

1074
00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:34,000
young people

1075
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:35,680
and they were awesome so you were on

1076
00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:36,960
there and i jumped on when you were

1077
00:44:41,109 --> 00:44:38,640
wrapping your thing up

1078
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:41,119
and i got i talked about this and i i

1079
00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:41,680
kind of

1080
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:43,760
misspoke a little bit and i think uh

1081
00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:45,520
jeremy was listening jeremy corbell

1082
00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:48,560
heard me and um felt a little bad so if

1083
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:50,000
jeremy's listening

1084
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:52,880
and essentially what i did is i i kind

1085
00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:55,040
of lit into

1086
00:44:59,589 --> 00:44:58,240
what i i can't quote myself it's on

1087
00:45:01,270 --> 00:44:59,599
youtube people can go back and see

1088
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:01,280
whatever the hell i said

1089
00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:03,520
but i probably just said he got a little

1090
00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:05,280
excited why did he call it a pyramid one

1091
00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:06,720
to me it looks like a triangle and

1092
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:08,319
i got into this whole thing and jeremy

1093
00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:10,960
actually texted me oh did he and he's so

1094
00:45:18,069 --> 00:45:14,319
he was so sweet he's so sweet

1095
00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:18,079
uh but anyway you know he said no i got

1096
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:19,119
that from

1097
00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:21,119
my p the people in the navy who told me

1098
00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:23,599
that so he wasn't making it up

1099
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:25,839
and it did like i didn't realize that

1100
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:27,200
actually so i thought he's just like

1101
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:28,400
throwing this out there i'm like why are

1102
00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:29,520
you calling us a pyramid

1103
00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:30,880
how do you know it's a pyramid when it

1104
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:33,359
looks just like it looks like a triangle

1105
00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:35,440
does that mean it's how do you know that

1106
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:36,640
but he

1107
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:38,960
said to me that he was told that

1108
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:40,319
information by the people who leaked it

1109
00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:42,480
to him

1110
00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:45,599
so okay okay and well and

1111
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:49,040
and not to uh uh just to stay on that

1112
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:50,160
part of the

1113
00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:53,280
uh subject here because i don't want to

1114
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:56,400
i don't want people to think that i'm uh

1115
00:45:59,990 --> 00:45:59,280
just rubbing salt or or angry or

1116
00:46:02,230 --> 00:46:00,000
whatever i could

1117
00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:02,240
really honestly care less what i care

1118
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:04,400
about is the community

1119
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:07,680
and i know and richard

1120
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:09,680
you and i have done night vision

1121
00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:10,800
together

1122
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:14,000
and one of the rules of night

1123
00:46:19,109 --> 00:46:16,880
vision with night vision goggles and

1124
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:19,119
you're not doing a sky watch

1125
00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:21,200
you're looking up at an object and it's

1126
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:22,240
got a strobe

1127
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:24,640
it's got an aircraft light on it it's

1128
00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:25,440
pass

1129
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:32,240
and you don't flash lasers at something

1130
00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:34,960
with aircraft lights that's uncool

1131
00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:37,680
um it's illegal but it's also just

1132
00:46:41,990 --> 00:46:38,960
completely uncool and

1133
00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:42,000
unethical and we have our rules that

1134
00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:44,640
we deal with in a night watch so when i

1135
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:45,599
go and i see

1136
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:49,920
corbell's video with a flashing strobe

1137
00:46:54,309 --> 00:46:51,680
aircraft light on it

1138
00:46:55,910 --> 00:46:54,319
i dismiss it as quick as i would in a

1139
00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:55,920
sky watch yeah you may want to be

1140
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:57,760
careful about that though

1141
00:47:01,430 --> 00:46:59,920
i mean think of it this way like i mean

1142
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:01,440
i i wonder about this

1143
00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:05,200
so yeah we all know that

1144
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:07,040
our aircraft have strobing lights on

1145
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:09,359
them but if you really want to go down

1146
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,960
this little crazy rabbit hole that we

1147
00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:12,400
have been down for many years and

1148
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:14,880
many listeners are down is it that

1149
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:16,720
outrageous to assume that if there is

1150
00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:18,000
another

1151
00:47:21,190 --> 00:47:19,760
group that is monitoring the united

1152
00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:21,200
states navy

1153
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:22,720
why don't they just put a damn strobing

1154
00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:24,800
light on their craft

1155
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:27,040
how stupid are they really expected to

1156
00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:28,319
be they're probably

1157
00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:30,480
much more intelligent than we are you

1158
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:32,720
hear stories all the time about

1159
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:35,280
craft disguising themselves in this way

1160
00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:36,240
or that

1161
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:37,520
people make these statements all the

1162
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:40,000
time so how difficult would it be

1163
00:47:46,950 --> 00:47:43,119
for a reasonably superior

1164
00:47:48,549 --> 00:47:46,960
intelligent alien species to just put a

1165
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:48,559
blinking light on the front of their

1166
00:47:50,710 --> 00:47:49,839
flying saucer wherever the hell they're

1167
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:50,720
flying

1168
00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:52,319
i don't really think that's outrageous

1169
00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:54,960
so i understand like the instinct

1170
00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:58,480
is to say well we make those strobing

1171
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:01,520
lights so therefore it must be ours but

1172
00:48:04,630 --> 00:48:03,599
that's really not that doesn't follow

1173
00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:04,640
logically

1174
00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:06,880
well it does for me and let me tell you

1175
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:07,760
why

1176
00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:10,240
if if you and i are out sky watching

1177
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:10,800
richard

1178
00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:13,440
and we've got our night vision and we're

1179
00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:14,480
looking at

1180
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:17,520
uh a craft with the strobe light on it

1181
00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:20,160
i am not i don't care if it's triangle

1182
00:48:24,549 --> 00:48:20,960
shaped

1183
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:24,559
i don't care if it's a flying toaster

1184
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:27,119
with a strobe light i don't care i'm not

1185
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:28,960
going to try to convince

1186
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:32,160
you that that is something that that is

1187
00:48:35,910 --> 00:48:33,280
something

1188
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:35,920
um sensational i'm not gonna i'm just

1189
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:37,680
not gonna do that that's not a sales

1190
00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:39,359
pitch i'm gonna get involved in in this

1191
00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:40,160
case though

1192
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:42,000
no fair enough like if you're doing an

1193
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:44,000
ordinary sky watch by the way you didn't

1194
00:48:48,549 --> 00:48:46,000
ask me what song i last listened to oh

1195
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:48,559
dude oh but i'm a little bit

1196
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:50,640
i'm a little bit disappointed in you

1197
00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:52,480
because it was spectacular and you

1198
00:48:54,790 --> 00:48:54,319
wanted to get it out at the beginning of

1199
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:54,800
the show

1200
00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:57,280
okay that's right i don't normally have

1201
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,109
richard what was that

1202
00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:04,470
because i'm in the middle of a thought

1203
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:06,640
here now you you

1204
00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:08,880
you went pink a couple of times during

1205
00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:09,839
the show already

1206
00:49:15,750 --> 00:49:12,800
and and now it's my turn yeah yeah we're

1207
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:15,760
looking at each other people don't

1208
00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:18,480
i listened to a song earlier today by a

1209
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:19,760
guy that i

1210
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:23,280
loved like 40 years ago i'm really

1211
00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:25,200
dating myself but this was the great

1212
00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:29,040
dave edmonds oh yes

1213
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:32,079
yeah oh man a song called crawling from

1214
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:33,680
the wreckage which is an

1215
00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:36,880
awesome song by him so edmunds was like

1216
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:40,880
this kind of rockabilly new wavy sort of

1217
00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:44,240
uh guitar player great singer did a lot

1218
00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:46,640
he was like he was designed to sing like

1219
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:48,640
classic 50s rock and roll but he had

1220
00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:49,920
this kind of

1221
00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:51,680
more modern sound than that he had that

1222
00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:53,520
blonde bob haircut

1223
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:58,720
which was yeah listen to dave edmonds uh

1224
00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:00,960
who's from wales and i think he's got to

1225
00:50:04,309 --> 00:50:02,160
be retired now he's

1226
00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:04,319
got to be up there but yeah he was

1227
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:06,000
absolutely wonderful and i

1228
00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:07,839
heard that was the last song i heard

1229
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:09,040
today that you know

1230
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:12,960
um that's very eclectic right

1231
00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:15,119
most people aren't going to pull uh dave

1232
00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:16,720
edmonds out of their pocket

1233
00:50:22,630 --> 00:50:20,000
in a conversation kind of like nick lowe

1234
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:22,640
you remember nicholas they played

1235
00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:24,240
together they played together

1236
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:26,960
right and you know who's good man today

1237
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:28,720
i was listening to some nick lowe

1238
00:50:34,549 --> 00:50:32,000
man it was so good well

1239
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:34,559
edmonds if we're going to do this so i

1240
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:36,000
would say edmunds was the better

1241
00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:37,280
musician and singer

1242
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:40,640
by far well edwards

1243
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:42,720
that's right and he was a better he was

1244
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:43,920
a great producer too

1245
00:50:48,870 --> 00:50:46,400
as well he produced elvis costello yes

1246
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:48,880
he did yes he did and nicola was

1247
00:50:54,549 --> 00:50:52,079
a bass player and so the two of them

1248
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:54,559
uh were great together uh there's

1249
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:56,160
there's no question about it but but

1250
00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:57,760
dave edmunds

1251
00:51:00,950 --> 00:51:00,640
uh was a musician's musician uh there's

1252
00:51:02,790 --> 00:51:00,960
there's

1253
00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:02,800
no question about it well well done

1254
00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:04,000
anyway

1255
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:08,559
well i'm impressed i'm impressed

1256
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:10,960
you know i was like 17 18 years people

1257
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:12,000
are getting pissed by the way it's like

1258
00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:13,440
talk about ufos

1259
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:16,400
but i was in my uh high school years and

1260
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:18,000
i got into punk rock

1261
00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:21,119
and new wave and the clash and elvis

1262
00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:22,000
costello and

1263
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:23,680
and dave edmonds was along for the ride

1264
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:25,760
for me so i really liked him

1265
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:27,359
a lot of other performers people just

1266
00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:28,800
forgot about that but a lot of people

1267
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:30,240
don't know

1268
00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:36,470
i didn't know that no i'm kidding i'm

1269
00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:38,160
kidding i was just okay

1270
00:51:41,910 --> 00:51:40,160
sounded good though didn't it i could i

1271
00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:41,920
almost went with it with me man

1272
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:44,480
i almost went with it yeah he was right

1273
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:45,920
there man stonehenge

1274
00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:48,319
yeah he would have been great yeah i

1275
00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:51,760
heard about that

1276
00:51:58,069 --> 00:51:54,960
oh man how did we okay that was uh

1277
00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:58,079
so we got i derailed us but

1278
00:52:01,109 --> 00:52:00,160
really you dropped the ball i had to

1279
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:01,119
pick it up

1280
00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:04,000
yeah and well so and and back to this i

1281
00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:04,800
was

1282
00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:08,319
i really um uh

1283
00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:12,000
uh got nailed not not nailed

1284
00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:14,880
but just like you when you were speaking

1285
00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:17,359
over the weekend during this live stream

1286
00:52:20,790 --> 00:52:20,240
i had said um and i don't remember

1287
00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:20,800
exactly

1288
00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:22,720
my words or how i followed up but i said

1289
00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:24,880
something like the uaptf

1290
00:52:28,230 --> 00:52:26,319
is not going to have anything in it

1291
00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:28,240
about uaps

1292
00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:30,640
and yeah i didn't hear you say that

1293
00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:32,000
that's right that's a rather strong

1294
00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:34,880
thing but but what i meant to say was

1295
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:36,160
ufos

1296
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:39,440
right and or little green men that that

1297
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:41,760
you know that was my intent and of

1298
00:52:44,390 --> 00:52:42,480
course you know

1299
00:52:45,990 --> 00:52:44,400
as somebody's going to grab on that and

1300
00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:46,000
say oh there's not going to be

1301
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:48,800
uaps it's the uap task force that's what

1302
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:51,200
the report is going to be about

1303
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:52,880
there's no question about it i'm talking

1304
00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:55,119
about disclosure in little green men

1305
00:52:58,390 --> 00:52:56,160
they're not going to get into crash

1306
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:58,400
retrievals i mean

1307
00:53:01,670 --> 00:53:00,160
we will be shocked if they get into

1308
00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:01,680
actual genuine crash retrieval

1309
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:03,040
information which is really where the

1310
00:53:07,510 --> 00:53:05,040
conversation needs to be

1311
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:07,520
obviously that's where the conversation

1312
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:08,720
needs to be we're

1313
00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:10,480
you know we're at this like kindergarten

1314
00:53:14,230 --> 00:53:12,400
level i shouldn't say that i mean we're

1315
00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:14,240
happy to have any public

1316
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:16,400
conversation on ufos at all like i was

1317
00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:17,760
saying just before

1318
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:20,880
we talked about dave edmonds uh you know

1319
00:53:23,589 --> 00:53:22,640
we were begging to have this type of

1320
00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:23,599
public

1321
00:53:26,710 --> 00:53:25,760
discourse just a few years ago and now

1322
00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:26,720
we have it

1323
00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:29,359
so i don't want to demean that or

1324
00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:30,240
belittle it

1325
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:32,480
but the reality is where all that's

1326
00:53:36,309 --> 00:53:34,640
happened in my view is that

1327
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:36,319
the cover-up and we should never lose

1328
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:38,160
sight there's a cover-up has just been

1329
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:39,760
moved a little bit down the field so now

1330
00:53:41,589 --> 00:53:41,040
we're not at the point where the

1331
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:41,599
government's

1332
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:43,760
ridiculing ufos we're not at the point

1333
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:44,880
where the government's

1334
00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:46,559
categorically denying it so that's an

1335
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:47,920
improvement

1336
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:49,280
but it's now that the cover-up's in a

1337
00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:51,440
new place the cover-up's in the place of

1338
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:52,640
yeah there's these things out there and

1339
00:53:57,510 --> 00:53:54,960
we don't know what they are

1340
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:57,520
and i'm sorry but that is not credible

1341
00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:59,280
that's actually an insult to anyone

1342
00:54:01,990 --> 00:54:00,000
who's

1343
00:54:04,069 --> 00:54:02,000
spent the smallest amount of time

1344
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:04,079
looking into this problem

1345
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:07,520
somebody knows now we have

1346
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:10,800
a system that is designed i've

1347
00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:13,520
absolutely come to the opinion so that

1348
00:54:19,109 --> 00:54:15,520
responsible government officials are

1349
00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:19,119
kept out of the loop nearly everyone

1350
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:20,240
in fact we're going to talk a little bit

1351
00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:22,240
later about the davis wilson notes and

1352
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:25,200
it's crystal clear in those notes people

1353
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:26,400
bother to get off their asses and

1354
00:54:31,510 --> 00:54:27,440
actually read

1355
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:31,520
what's inside those notes rather than

1356
00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:33,119
you know trying to dismiss them which is

1357
00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:35,680
just it's really it's harmful to this

1358
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:36,559
field that

1359
00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:38,400
so many people have pig-headedly

1360
00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:39,920
continued to do that

1361
00:54:43,430 --> 00:54:41,520
but all you have to do is read what is

1362
00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:43,440
in there and that's just

1363
00:54:47,589 --> 00:54:46,000
another avenue to see just how the

1364
00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:47,599
system is designed

1365
00:54:52,150 --> 00:54:50,880
to take power away from responsible

1366
00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:52,160
government officials that you would

1367
00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:52,559
think

1368
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:53,839
should be the ones running this and

1369
00:54:58,470 --> 00:54:55,680
they're not so

1370
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:58,480
so there's no way the uap task force is

1371
00:55:03,030 --> 00:54:59,760
going to

1372
00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:03,040
have access now now they have they

1373
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:03,599
actually have

1374
00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:05,520
knowledge look who's consulting i got

1375
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:07,359
christopher mellon and eric davis

1376
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:10,400
right off the bat probably lou elizondo

1377
00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:12,000
all of those guys know about crash

1378
00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:13,680
retrievals

1379
00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:17,040
every one of them i mean

1380
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:19,200
you know i mean davis practically

1381
00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:21,599
dropped the entire bomb on national tv

1382
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:22,880
over a year ago in an interview with

1383
00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:24,960
tucker carlson he says yeah we acquire

1384
00:55:28,230 --> 00:55:26,480
stuff

1385
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:28,240
but they've all talked about this it's

1386
00:55:31,190 --> 00:55:29,920
all an open

1387
00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:31,200
bit of knowledge so if they're

1388
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:32,880
consulting with the task force you'd

1389
00:55:37,270 --> 00:55:34,319
have to assume

1390
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:37,280
this has come up now unofficially is it

1391
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:38,880
going to come up officially

1392
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well no no way because the

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00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:45,680
the crash retrieval line that is that's

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00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:48,000
the red line of disclosure and that is

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00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:48,720
the line

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00:55:52,750 --> 00:55:51,599
that you think about we're in an era in

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00:55:56,470 --> 00:55:52,760
which

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00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:56,480
conspiracy theories are being so

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00:56:00,069 --> 00:55:59,040
absurdly dismissed by everyone and to

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00:56:01,910 --> 00:56:00,079
the point where

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00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:01,920
things that aren't actual conspiracy

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00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:03,440
theories are being called conspiracy

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00:56:06,069 --> 00:56:04,960
theories just because people like to use

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00:56:08,309 --> 00:56:06,079
the word

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00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:08,319
and so everything that's a little bit

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00:56:12,069 --> 00:56:09,599
off the main

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00:56:13,030 --> 00:56:12,079
path is now a conspiracy theory so no

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00:56:13,750 --> 00:56:13,040
one's supposed to believe you have

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00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:13,760
youtube

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00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:15,520
d platforming people left and right

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00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:16,960
because

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00:56:20,390 --> 00:56:18,400
you say something that offends some

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00:56:23,190 --> 00:56:20,400
person or some algorithm

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00:56:25,510 --> 00:56:23,200
the fact is if we go into crash

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00:56:28,870 --> 00:56:25,520
retrievals with the uap task force

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00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:28,880
that is validating the greatest

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00:56:32,870 --> 00:56:30,720
conspiracy theory of all time which is

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00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:32,880
ufos what is bigger

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00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:34,880
what's a bigger conspiracy theory

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00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:39,040
honestly than the ufo cover-up

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00:56:44,710 --> 00:56:42,640
resurrection i mean right is that

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00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:44,720
9 11. i mean this is right it's at that

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00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:51,109
all right there's a few but the ufo yes

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00:56:54,309 --> 00:56:52,240
let's face it that's

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00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:54,319
that's like probably sits on top of all

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00:56:58,230 --> 00:56:56,640
of it and if that were ever to be truly

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00:56:58,789 --> 00:56:58,240
admitted or acknowledged are you kidding

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00:57:01,829 --> 00:56:58,799
me

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00:57:04,150 --> 00:57:01,839
that would open everything up now okay

1430
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:04,160
okay what other conspiracy theories are

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00:57:05,990 --> 00:57:05,599
true i'm going to give you two minutes

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00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:06,000
to

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00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:16,559
right there

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00:57:20,950 --> 00:57:19,359
in front of us and then we have this

1435
00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:20,960
flying pyramid

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00:57:28,549 --> 00:57:25,280
thing blow up in the media two weeks ago

1437
00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:28,559
that has died on the vine

1438
00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:29,760
she's seeing a lot of mainstream

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00:57:32,549 --> 00:57:32,240
pushback on that is that very very long

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00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:32,559
and

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00:57:35,990 --> 00:57:34,000
i mean honestly it was a good article by

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00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:36,000
tyler rogoway and the drive from the war

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00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:36,400
zone

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00:57:41,109 --> 00:57:39,119
yep 10 000 words man that was a long bit

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00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:41,119
of analysis i read all of it twice it

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00:57:45,190 --> 00:57:41,520
was

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00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:45,200
100 convinced by everything he said

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00:57:49,670 --> 00:57:45,760
there

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00:57:51,670 --> 00:57:49,680
but i must say he put out a a solid

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00:57:53,589 --> 00:57:51,680
argument a spirited argument for the

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00:57:55,750 --> 00:57:53,599
fact that those objects were not ufos

1452
00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:55,760
they were chinese or russian drones

1453
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:56,960
now that's a whole other thing we can

1454
00:57:59,430 --> 00:57:58,640
get into i'd be happy to talk about that

1455
00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:59,440
because there's

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00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:01,040
there's reason to say yes and there's

1457
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:03,839
also reasons to say i don't think so

1458
00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:06,480
honestly but you've had you know some

1459
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:08,559
mainstream pushback on it

1460
00:58:12,069 --> 00:58:11,200
there's uh you know mick west has also

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00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:12,079
made his own

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00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:14,960
very skeptical analysis of it and i mean

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00:58:17,030 --> 00:58:15,280
the

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00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:17,040
media is skewed towards skeptical

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00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:19,440
analyses it absolutely is

1466
00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:21,359
you do a search on ufos on youtube and

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00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:23,359
you you don't get popular websites you

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00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:23,680
get

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00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:28,480
mainstream

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00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:30,640
you don't every the entire media

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00:58:34,390 --> 00:58:32,319
landscape is skewed

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00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:34,400
toward corporate establishment you know

1473
00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:35,599
double speak

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00:58:39,910 --> 00:58:37,839
and i'm not trying to accuse tyler

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00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:39,920
rogoway or mick west of that actually

1476
00:58:43,829 --> 00:58:42,240
i think they're sincere in their

1477
00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:43,839
skepticism

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00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:46,319
nonetheless i think that position those

1479
00:58:51,349 --> 00:58:48,799
types of positions become

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00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:51,359
they're the go-to do any google search

1481
00:58:56,230 --> 00:58:53,040
on this stuff i mean it's it's so

1482
00:58:57,670 --> 00:58:56,240
out in the open now it's ridiculous yeah

1483
00:58:59,430 --> 00:58:57,680
you have dishonest algorithms when

1484
00:59:01,030 --> 00:58:59,440
people use google when uh

1485
00:59:02,470 --> 00:59:01,040
when all of this started to break i

1486
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:02,480
think dave beatty

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00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:04,720
um gets a lot of credit here because he

1488
00:59:08,549 --> 00:59:06,240
he brought this up uh

1489
00:59:09,670 --> 00:59:08,559
a while ago i'm talking about the july

1490
00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:09,680
2019

1491
00:59:13,990 --> 00:59:12,880
incident uh with the flying pyramids uh

1492
00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:14,000
but the drive

1493
00:59:17,589 --> 00:59:15,920
and the breakdown that they did and that

1494
00:59:21,030 --> 00:59:17,599
reporting with the

1495
00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:21,040
foia documents and the ship's logs

1496
00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:23,599
was a pretty compelling read where i

1497
00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:25,119
just had to step back and go

1498
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:28,720
wait a minute here uh this could be

1499
00:59:31,589 --> 00:59:30,400
u.s navy this could be a lot of

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00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:31,599
different things i'm talking about the

1501
00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:33,200
objects in the sky

1502
00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:35,520
but this was that was pretty well laid

1503
00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:36,880
out and then

1504
00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:38,400
tyler's article and you're right it was

1505
00:59:41,109 --> 00:59:40,000
ten thousand words and you and i talked

1506
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:41,119
about it that day

1507
00:59:46,309 --> 00:59:44,160
uh we we had both uh we have both read

1508
00:59:48,950 --> 00:59:46,319
it and we talked that day and

1509
00:59:50,309 --> 00:59:48,960
uh and it was pretty compelling too

1510
00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:50,319
although

1511
00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:53,760
uh two different points of view

1512
00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:56,640
coming from nearly the same media

1513
00:59:59,430 --> 00:59:58,240
organization and i thought that that was

1514
01:00:01,030 --> 00:59:59,440
pretty interesting i think everybody

1515
01:00:02,630 --> 01:00:01,040
should read that yeah

1516
01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:02,640
there there's a lot of questions that

1517
01:00:05,349 --> 01:00:04,559
are raised but no matter how you look at

1518
01:00:07,510 --> 01:00:05,359
this

1519
01:00:08,870 --> 01:00:07,520
all right like if it's a russian or

1520
01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:08,880
chinese

1521
01:00:13,270 --> 01:00:11,200
drone team doing basically electronic

1522
01:00:14,710 --> 01:00:13,280
espionage on u.s navy which was

1523
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:14,720
broke away's argument and it was a

1524
01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:17,040
decent arc like he certainly pointed out

1525
01:00:21,910 --> 01:00:17,760
the

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01:00:25,990 --> 01:00:21,920
russians would want to have

1527
01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:26,000
to uh trip us electronic responses

1528
01:00:31,190 --> 01:00:29,040
from you know from their ships and there

1529
01:00:32,789 --> 01:00:31,200
are reasons that you'd want to do that

1530
01:00:34,390 --> 01:00:32,799
the us and the soviet union did this all

1531
01:00:35,430 --> 01:00:34,400
the time during the cold war nobody even

1532
01:00:37,109 --> 01:00:35,440
talks about it

1533
01:00:38,710 --> 01:00:37,119
and pilots lost their lives like you'd

1534
01:00:39,430 --> 01:00:38,720
fly a little bit over the other nations

1535
01:00:41,270 --> 01:00:39,440
territory

1536
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:41,280
to trip the radar installations and get

1537
01:00:46,150 --> 01:00:42,720
you'd get valuable data that way

1538
01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:46,160
and it was a little uh you know a

1539
01:00:49,349 --> 01:00:48,640
cat and mouse game and sometimes people

1540
01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:49,359
died

1541
01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:52,000
but but the other problem is it's still

1542
01:00:55,270 --> 01:00:53,520
incomprehensible to me

1543
01:00:57,430 --> 01:00:55,280
i think to many people how these objects

1544
01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:57,440
and there were many of them got so close

1545
01:01:01,270 --> 01:00:59,520
in the face of the us navy time and

1546
01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:01,280
again and when you think of

1547
01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:02,960
for example the new york times reporting

1548
01:01:06,710 --> 01:01:06,240
about the 2014-2015 series of incidents

1549
01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:06,720
off

1550
01:01:10,549 --> 01:01:09,040
the eastern coast with the uss roosevelt

1551
01:01:11,270 --> 01:01:10,559
if you remember that article they were

1552
01:01:15,670 --> 01:01:11,280
talking about

1553
01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:15,680
almost daily encounters with these

1554
01:01:20,470 --> 01:01:18,960
now for nine months almost daily

1555
01:01:21,109 --> 01:01:20,480
encounters i keep saying this but i'll

1556
01:01:24,069 --> 01:01:21,119
say it again

1557
01:01:25,990 --> 01:01:24,079
that's more than probably 200 events is

1558
01:01:30,309 --> 01:01:26,000
anyone really honestly going to

1559
01:01:32,549 --> 01:01:30,319
to seriously put out the proposition

1560
01:01:33,349 --> 01:01:32,559
that the chinese or the russians are out

1561
01:01:35,589 --> 01:01:33,359
in the

1562
01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:35,599
on the eastern atlantic coast off the

1563
01:01:38,549 --> 01:01:36,640
u.s

1564
01:01:40,150 --> 01:01:38,559
and they're sending more than 200 drone

1565
01:01:43,430 --> 01:01:40,160
missions and not once

1566
01:01:46,230 --> 01:01:43,440
getting shot down not once no

1567
01:01:47,990 --> 01:01:46,240
that time is a great time that's highly

1568
01:01:50,470 --> 01:01:48,000
unlikely let's take our break right here

1569
01:01:52,309 --> 01:01:50,480
i guess tonight richard bleepin dolan i

1570
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:52,319
am your host jimmy church this is fade

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01:01:58,150 --> 01:01:54,720
to black on the game changer network and

1572
01:01:59,910 --> 01:01:58,160
kg r a the planet we've got a lot to

1573
01:02:01,109 --> 01:01:59,920
discuss tonight we'll continue the

1574
01:02:02,549 --> 01:02:01,119
conversation

1575
01:02:04,630 --> 01:02:02,559
right after this short break you can

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01:07:24,950 --> 01:07:23,680
welcome back fade to black i am your

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01:07:28,069 --> 01:07:24,960
host jimmy church tonight

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01:07:31,109 --> 01:07:28,079
richard dolan is with us tomorrow

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01:07:31,589 --> 01:07:31,119
night kevin korber one of our producers

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01:07:35,190 --> 01:07:31,599
friend

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01:07:38,470 --> 01:07:35,200
colleague here uh for fade to black for

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01:07:40,630 --> 01:07:38,480
many many years passed away yesterday

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01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:40,640
unexpectedly and very suddenly tomorrow

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01:07:44,309 --> 01:07:42,240
night we're going to dedicate

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01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:44,319
fader night uh to kevin and we'll be

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01:07:47,510 --> 01:07:45,839
taking your calls

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01:07:50,150 --> 01:07:47,520
all night long tonight it's richard

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01:07:51,829 --> 01:07:50,160
dolan and kevin would have wanted

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01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:51,839
the show to go on and we're going to do

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01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:53,520
that right now

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01:07:59,029 --> 01:07:57,200
by the way uh richard uh dave edmund 77

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01:08:02,510 --> 01:07:59,039
years old

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01:08:03,670 --> 01:08:02,520
oh wow yeah right wow time just flies

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01:08:06,789 --> 01:08:03,680
77.

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01:08:07,510 --> 01:08:06,799
he was such a cool cat i listened to him

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01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:07,520
because

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01:08:13,349 --> 01:08:10,640
for some reason he i was

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01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:13,359
just he popped into my head and i i put

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01:08:17,430 --> 01:08:15,680
a pandora station on to dave edmonds

1720
01:08:19,669 --> 01:08:17,440
radio i just created it

1721
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:19,679
so i had a few of his songs that came

1722
01:08:21,829 --> 01:08:20,640
through and it just

1723
01:08:24,789 --> 01:08:21,839
for me it just brought back some good

1724
01:08:28,550 --> 01:08:24,799
memories good good feelings about a time

1725
01:08:29,749 --> 01:08:28,560
long gone 77 yeah um i was just going to

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01:08:33,510 --> 01:08:29,759
say

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01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:33,520
uh that summer of 1980

1728
01:08:37,269 --> 01:08:36,080
uh for me too was pretty strong because

1729
01:08:39,910 --> 01:08:37,279
the two of them

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01:08:41,189 --> 01:08:39,920
going back to nick lowe right uh both

1731
01:08:43,590 --> 01:08:41,199
came out with albums

1732
01:08:45,269 --> 01:08:43,600
uh that were theirs and then they did

1733
01:08:47,829 --> 01:08:45,279
one together

1734
01:08:49,349 --> 01:08:47,839
and that was a pretty good summer uh

1735
01:08:51,189 --> 01:08:49,359
absolutely what happened was

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01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:51,199
uh this i remember because i i was

1737
01:08:54,630 --> 01:08:52,799
really into this back then so they were

1738
01:08:55,430 --> 01:08:54,640
they played in a band called rockpile

1739
01:08:57,189 --> 01:08:55,440
that was it but

1740
01:08:58,950 --> 01:08:57,199
that was it they were signed to

1741
01:09:00,870 --> 01:08:58,960
different labels

1742
01:09:03,110 --> 01:09:00,880
so edmunds was on one label lowe's on

1743
01:09:05,990 --> 01:09:03,120
the other so that prevented

1744
01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:06,000
them from actually uh having like their

1745
01:09:09,990 --> 01:09:07,120
band on a

1746
01:09:12,149 --> 01:09:10,000
on a mutual unlike one label so edmunds

1747
01:09:14,390 --> 01:09:12,159
did a couple of solo albums

1748
01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:14,400
but that that was still rockpile but it

1749
01:09:18,390 --> 01:09:16,080
had his name on it and nick lowe

1750
01:09:20,070 --> 01:09:18,400
similarly they edmunds played on lowe's

1751
01:09:22,709 --> 01:09:20,080
albums and and vice versa

1752
01:09:23,590 --> 01:09:22,719
so it was the exact same band exact same

1753
01:09:25,269 --> 01:09:23,600
guys

1754
01:09:27,430 --> 01:09:25,279
that was a band called rockpile they

1755
01:09:31,510 --> 01:09:27,440
were really good and then the irony

1756
01:09:33,910 --> 01:09:31,520
is once they were able to record

1757
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:33,920
an a rockpile album they did and then

1758
01:09:37,510 --> 01:09:35,440
they just broke up

1759
01:09:39,269 --> 01:09:37,520
like immediately richard darling

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01:09:40,070 --> 01:09:39,279
bringing the bringing the music

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01:09:43,189 --> 01:09:40,080
knowledge man

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01:09:46,470 --> 01:09:43,199
music trivia yeah that's uh well but see

1763
01:09:48,070 --> 01:09:46,480
and back then this was a story in the in

1764
01:09:50,309 --> 01:09:48,080
the music world this was something that

1765
01:09:51,829 --> 01:09:50,319
we all talked about

1766
01:09:53,590 --> 01:09:51,839
yeah they were they were awesome yeah

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01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:53,600
they were a great great band

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01:10:00,630 --> 01:09:58,000
okay back to how do we

1769
01:10:01,590 --> 01:10:00,640
um i think this is on my fault yeah i

1770
01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:01,600
got to take

1771
01:10:05,189 --> 01:10:03,600
well the whole conversation in twitter

1772
01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:05,199
right now is about dave edmonds and

1773
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:06,320
rockpile

1774
01:10:09,990 --> 01:10:08,080
so just letting you know that's that's

1775
01:10:13,189 --> 01:10:10,000
pretty cool very proud

1776
01:10:17,110 --> 01:10:13,199
of the twitterratty now the

1777
01:10:19,030 --> 01:10:17,120
the uh the date rolled by

1778
01:10:20,470 --> 01:10:19,040
uh going back to the subject about

1779
01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:20,480
drones

1780
01:10:25,510 --> 01:10:23,120
um and the flying pyramids well then

1781
01:10:29,510 --> 01:10:25,520
april 15th comes along john greenwald

1782
01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:29,520
doing what he does being john greenwald

1783
01:10:34,630 --> 01:10:33,120
gets the pentagon to uh

1784
01:10:37,030 --> 01:10:34,640
come out and say they went back and

1785
01:10:39,830 --> 01:10:37,040
forth on this it wasn't as

1786
01:10:40,229 --> 01:10:39,840
the the initial response was really

1787
01:10:41,430 --> 01:10:40,239
quick

1788
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:41,440
which is this is when they said they

1789
01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:43,440
didn't know what this was they said that

1790
01:10:48,390 --> 01:10:44,880
the video

1791
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:48,400
was a u.s navy video right he so he got

1792
01:10:53,110 --> 01:10:49,920
gown to say that he

1793
01:10:56,229 --> 01:10:53,120
pushed where he pushed to find out

1794
01:10:59,510 --> 01:10:56,239
what it was the object and

1795
01:11:02,950 --> 01:10:59,520
susan gal repeatedly said look i'm

1796
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,960
done with this right i've already told

1797
01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:04,560
you all that i've got it's a

1798
01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:08,320
navy video i have nothing more to add

1799
01:11:11,830 --> 01:11:10,560
but well that supports jeremy of course

1800
01:11:13,270 --> 01:11:11,840
because that's what he said it was

1801
01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:13,280
originally

1802
01:11:16,709 --> 01:11:15,679
and i think you can probably uh on that

1803
01:11:19,430 --> 01:11:16,719
basis

1804
01:11:20,229 --> 01:11:19,440
believe what he says when he makes a

1805
01:11:23,189 --> 01:11:20,239
claim that

1806
01:11:24,310 --> 01:11:23,199
he was told by whatever insiders that it

1807
01:11:26,070 --> 01:11:24,320
was a pyramid

1808
01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:26,080
shaped object and then how they knew

1809
01:11:31,189 --> 01:11:27,840
that i i don't know

1810
01:11:32,550 --> 01:11:31,199
right and then the media turns around

1811
01:11:35,189 --> 01:11:32,560
and this is where the media needs to

1812
01:11:37,669 --> 01:11:35,199
bear some responsibility here

1813
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:37,679
nobody went back and looked at susan

1814
01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:39,520
gao's statement

1815
01:11:43,189 --> 01:11:41,440
the media runs with the headline that

1816
01:11:45,510 --> 01:11:43,199
was put out there

1817
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:45,520
uh independent of the ma the media

1818
01:11:50,870 --> 01:11:47,280
organizations which is

1819
01:11:54,229 --> 01:11:50,880
pentagon confirms pyramid

1820
01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:54,239
ufo video right wait wait a minute wait

1821
01:11:58,470 --> 01:11:55,440
a minute wait a minute

1822
01:12:01,510 --> 01:11:58,480
the the the pentagon did not mention

1823
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:01,520
little green men or flying pyramids

1824
01:12:05,030 --> 01:12:03,120
they mentioned a pyramid i mean look

1825
01:12:06,070 --> 01:12:05,040
from the bottom a pyramid looks like a

1826
01:12:09,830 --> 01:12:06,080
triangle

1827
01:12:10,229 --> 01:12:09,840
i don't know but the pentagon never said

1828
01:12:13,510 --> 01:12:10,239
that

1829
01:12:14,870 --> 01:12:13,520
all the pentagon said was and i can pull

1830
01:12:18,229 --> 01:12:14,880
up the quote

1831
01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:18,239
we can confirm that this is a u.s navy

1832
01:12:25,110 --> 01:12:22,080
video stop that that's it

1833
01:12:28,550 --> 01:12:25,120
your problem is what exactly my problem

1834
01:12:32,229 --> 01:12:28,560
is that the headline said that

1835
01:12:34,630 --> 01:12:32,239
the navy confirms flying pyramids

1836
01:12:35,669 --> 01:12:34,640
and that is not the case that's exactly

1837
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:35,679
what they well

1838
01:12:38,950 --> 01:12:36,880
look i mean you're getting a little

1839
01:12:41,590 --> 01:12:38,960
semantic-y here i mean there

1840
01:12:42,390 --> 01:12:41,600
the video is a very interesting video

1841
01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:42,400
that shows an

1842
01:12:46,149 --> 01:12:43,760
object that clearly looks like a

1843
01:12:47,910 --> 01:12:46,159
triangle like

1844
01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:47,920
now there are people who've argued oh no

1845
01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:50,320
well that's an optical effect fine you

1846
01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:51,040
can do that

1847
01:12:55,189 --> 01:12:53,440
but look the thing looks like a triangle

1848
01:12:57,750 --> 01:12:55,199
it doesn't look like anything else

1849
01:12:59,669 --> 01:12:57,760
it's flying it's going across the video

1850
01:13:01,350 --> 01:12:59,679
and the navy says this is an official us

1851
01:13:04,070 --> 01:13:01,360
navy video like what more do you want

1852
01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:04,080
well the problem with that richard and

1853
01:13:10,310 --> 01:13:06,719
and you know this as well as anybody

1854
01:13:12,149 --> 01:13:10,320
once it's out there the incorrectness of

1855
01:13:14,149 --> 01:13:12,159
it semantics or not

1856
01:13:16,310 --> 01:13:14,159
the world is now seeing the headlines

1857
01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:16,320
that the the united states navy

1858
01:13:21,590 --> 01:13:19,360
is filming flying pyramids over their

1859
01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:21,600
navy off of the coast of the united

1860
01:13:25,590 --> 01:13:23,600
states first of all they filmed a lot

1861
01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:25,600
more than that over many many years

1862
01:13:29,350 --> 01:13:27,120
right all right there's gun camera

1863
01:13:31,189 --> 01:13:29,360
footage going back decades and decades

1864
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:31,199
i've got guaranteed they've got some

1865
01:13:34,870 --> 01:13:32,640
nice high def

1866
01:13:36,630 --> 01:13:34,880
really great shots of some flying

1867
01:13:37,910 --> 01:13:36,640
saucers and maybe some aliens waving at

1868
01:13:40,470 --> 01:13:37,920
them for all we know

1869
01:13:41,910 --> 01:13:40,480
so they probably have that so it's

1870
01:13:42,550 --> 01:13:41,920
really not a big deal to say oh well

1871
01:13:45,189 --> 01:13:42,560
they

1872
01:13:46,870 --> 01:13:45,199
video recorded this other thing as well

1873
01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:46,880
but really all that the news

1874
01:13:50,709 --> 01:13:48,239
you maybe looked at this more carefully

1875
01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:50,719
than i did i'm probably going to concede

1876
01:13:54,950 --> 01:13:51,280
that

1877
01:13:55,270 --> 01:13:54,960
but really to me i thought all the story

1878
01:14:01,830 --> 01:13:55,280
was

1879
01:14:04,870 --> 01:14:01,840
and it it does capture something that's

1880
01:14:07,030 --> 01:14:04,880
unusual there's no

1881
01:14:09,910 --> 01:14:07,040
no way around that it's an unusual thing

1882
01:14:10,870 --> 01:14:09,920
there are no official perfectly triangle

1883
01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:10,880
craft

1884
01:14:14,310 --> 01:14:13,120
that are supposed to be flying anywhere

1885
01:14:17,910 --> 01:14:14,320
i mean yes

1886
01:14:19,030 --> 01:14:17,920
you got the tr3b almost certainly

1887
01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:19,040
they're flying something like this

1888
01:14:21,030 --> 01:14:20,560
covertly but you're not supposed to know

1889
01:14:22,709 --> 01:14:21,040
about it

1890
01:14:25,830 --> 01:14:22,719
there's not supposed to be they're not

1891
01:14:28,390 --> 01:14:25,840
supposed to say the quiet part loud so

1892
01:14:30,310 --> 01:14:28,400
so the fact that you've got an actual

1893
01:14:33,990 --> 01:14:30,320
beautifully formed triangle

1894
01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:34,000
object moving across the screen

1895
01:14:39,669 --> 01:14:36,960
that is noteworthy right right if that

1896
01:14:41,750 --> 01:14:39,679
is indeed what it is

1897
01:14:43,430 --> 01:14:41,760
looks like you can make the argument

1898
01:14:44,790 --> 01:14:43,440
otherwise and people are doing it but

1899
01:14:46,470 --> 01:14:44,800
you can also make the argument that

1900
01:14:46,790 --> 01:14:46,480
maybe they actually caught what it looks

1901
01:14:48,470 --> 01:14:46,800
like

1902
01:14:49,990 --> 01:14:48,480
because that's what video usually does

1903
01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:50,000
that's right and so

1904
01:14:55,990 --> 01:14:53,440
um when you look at the video closely

1905
01:14:57,669 --> 01:14:56,000
blow it up on your screen and take a

1906
01:14:58,790 --> 01:14:57,679
really close look and start freeze

1907
01:15:01,669 --> 01:14:58,800
framing it

1908
01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:01,679
what you do see in that video and i

1909
01:15:03,350 --> 01:15:03,040
think that this is one of the reasons

1910
01:15:06,149 --> 01:15:03,360
why

1911
01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:06,159
it has chilled out so quickly is that if

1912
01:15:10,709 --> 01:15:07,600
you take a second look

1913
01:15:15,430 --> 01:15:10,719
and you really see what's going on

1914
01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:15,440
richard that triangle the green one

1915
01:15:19,669 --> 01:15:18,640
is also repeated on the screen about 50

1916
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:19,679
times

1917
01:15:22,870 --> 01:15:21,360
and there are black ones in the

1918
01:15:26,390 --> 01:15:22,880
background

1919
01:15:29,510 --> 01:15:26,400
same shape same motion

1920
01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:29,520
same speed everything

1921
01:15:33,270 --> 01:15:31,600
running together but running in the

1922
01:15:36,070 --> 01:15:33,280
opposite direction

1923
01:15:36,709 --> 01:15:36,080
in the background now you have to stop

1924
01:15:40,229 --> 01:15:36,719
and think

1925
01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:40,239
as you look at this it's not one

1926
01:15:44,070 --> 01:15:42,480
maybe that there's some kind of artifact

1927
01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:44,080
that's going on with the photo sensor

1928
01:15:48,870 --> 01:15:45,840
and the way it's being picked up because

1929
01:15:50,790 --> 01:15:48,880
really it's not one but there's probably

1930
01:15:53,910 --> 01:15:50,800
50 on a freeze frame

1931
01:15:54,390 --> 01:15:53,920
question is what are they picking up you

1932
01:15:56,310 --> 01:15:54,400
know

1933
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:56,320
you've got all these artifacts that are

1934
01:16:01,189 --> 01:15:58,719
being picked up so the artifacts are

1935
01:16:03,189 --> 01:16:01,199
being caused presumably by something

1936
01:16:04,950 --> 01:16:03,199
that's actually up there

1937
01:16:06,870 --> 01:16:04,960
so i agree i mean i think it was mick

1938
01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:06,880
west who pointed this out and it's a

1939
01:16:09,510 --> 01:16:07,760
reasonable

1940
01:16:11,510 --> 01:16:09,520
like it's insightful and it's probably

1941
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:11,520
true but it doesn't

1942
01:16:15,350 --> 01:16:13,360
obviate the fact that they caught

1943
01:16:17,830 --> 01:16:15,360
something up there

1944
01:16:19,830 --> 01:16:17,840
in a series of encounters by the way

1945
01:16:20,950 --> 01:16:19,840
this was one that i think coincided with

1946
01:16:22,950 --> 01:16:20,960
uh

1947
01:16:24,950 --> 01:16:22,960
the whole channel islands extravaganza

1948
01:16:25,830 --> 01:16:24,960
if i'm not mistaken july of 2019. isn't

1949
01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:25,840
this the one

1950
01:16:29,669 --> 01:16:28,800
uh channel islands and san clemente

1951
01:16:33,189 --> 01:16:29,679
island

1952
01:16:35,110 --> 01:16:33,199
yeah so in any case we learned about

1953
01:16:37,750 --> 01:16:35,120
that of course with all of the other

1954
01:16:39,510 --> 01:16:37,760
events that were going on over at least

1955
01:16:42,310 --> 01:16:39,520
on four occasions we know

1956
01:16:44,229 --> 01:16:42,320
you've got multiple like whatever

1957
01:16:44,870 --> 01:16:44,239
happened whatever they recorded is

1958
01:16:47,510 --> 01:16:44,880
something

1959
01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:47,520
serious to say that this is probably

1960
01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:48,000
commercial

1961
01:16:53,189 --> 01:16:51,280
traffic like really well

1962
01:16:55,189 --> 01:16:53,199
do they actually fly over military

1963
01:16:56,870 --> 01:16:55,199
exercises when the military is worried

1964
01:16:58,310 --> 01:16:56,880
like what the hell are those things

1965
01:17:00,070 --> 01:16:58,320
and that's just going to be commercial

1966
01:17:03,110 --> 01:17:00,080
traffic i find that very

1967
01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:03,120
difficult to to swallow and i think

1968
01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:05,840
you know this cur occurred in the midst

1969
01:17:09,830 --> 01:17:07,040
of

1970
01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:09,840
what c sure as hell seemed in the rogue

1971
01:17:14,790 --> 01:17:10,880
away article to be

1972
01:17:16,310 --> 01:17:14,800
a very serious bunch of incursions no

1973
01:17:17,910 --> 01:17:16,320
matter who's behind it

1974
01:17:19,510 --> 01:17:17,920
uh dave whatever whatever they're

1975
01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:19,520
capturing they're getting something

1976
01:17:23,669 --> 01:17:20,080
that's

1977
01:17:27,669 --> 01:17:23,679
beatty just tweeted

1978
01:17:30,070 --> 01:17:27,679
uh well i'm rouge bro

1979
01:17:31,350 --> 01:17:30,080
he says i am not lined up with anyone i

1980
01:17:34,950 --> 01:17:31,360
can tell you that

1981
01:17:37,669 --> 01:17:34,960
not lined up with tyler mark or jeremy

1982
01:17:38,550 --> 01:17:37,679
sort of lone wolf out here lose the

1983
01:17:41,350 --> 01:17:38,560
headsets

1984
01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:41,360
for tv i like that dave dave's listening

1985
01:17:44,950 --> 01:17:42,480
to the show

1986
01:17:45,510 --> 01:17:44,960
that's really great because he he's got

1987
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:45,520
at least

1988
01:17:48,630 --> 01:17:47,280
one significant connection he may have

1989
01:17:50,870 --> 01:17:48,640
more

1990
01:17:53,270 --> 01:17:50,880
and if i'm remembering this correctly

1991
01:17:56,550 --> 01:17:53,280
i'm really glad he chimed in here

1992
01:17:58,310 --> 01:17:56,560
uh i think they were telling him

1993
01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:58,320
yeah it was through him that there was

1994
01:18:01,510 --> 01:18:00,000
one witness who said it looked like a

1995
01:18:02,870 --> 01:18:01,520
tic tac

1996
01:18:05,669 --> 01:18:02,880
and then you know some people walked

1997
01:18:09,669 --> 01:18:05,679
away from that but that one statement

1998
01:18:12,149 --> 01:18:09,679
is out there so there are visual

1999
01:18:12,709 --> 01:18:12,159
there are eye witnesses apparently and

2000
01:18:14,550 --> 01:18:12,719
and

2001
01:18:15,910 --> 01:18:14,560
one gets the impression that there are a

2002
01:18:19,910 --> 01:18:15,920
lot more

2003
01:18:24,550 --> 01:18:19,920
eyewitnesses than have even come out

2004
01:18:25,990 --> 01:18:24,560
so i look this is not done and for

2005
01:18:28,470 --> 01:18:26,000
for some of these people to just say

2006
01:18:30,550 --> 01:18:28,480
well it's just drones

2007
01:18:32,070 --> 01:18:30,560
first of all nothing's just drones like

2008
01:18:34,709 --> 01:18:32,080
that's serious

2009
01:18:36,390 --> 01:18:34,719
all right but yeah that's a different

2010
01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:36,400
whole bunch of other questions

2011
01:18:39,750 --> 01:18:38,239
even if that were the case that's right

2012
01:18:41,590 --> 01:18:39,760
that's right now right

2013
01:18:42,709 --> 01:18:41,600
now there was one case of the well i

2014
01:18:43,590 --> 01:18:42,719
don't want to go back to the tic tac

2015
01:18:45,910 --> 01:18:43,600
that's an o4

2016
01:18:47,510 --> 01:18:45,920
that's that's not that's fascinating but

2017
01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:47,520
you'll notice no one's trying to debunk

2018
01:18:50,390 --> 01:18:48,400
that one

2019
01:18:51,590 --> 01:18:50,400
or at least i don't if they are i think

2020
01:18:52,790 --> 01:18:51,600
they're being very silly to try to

2021
01:18:55,350 --> 01:18:52,800
debunk that

2022
01:18:56,950 --> 01:18:55,360
but uh anyway let's not i don't want to

2023
01:18:59,350 --> 01:18:56,960
get too confused yeah let's

2024
01:19:01,350 --> 01:18:59,360
let's let's let's stay on point here and

2025
01:19:06,870 --> 01:19:01,360
this is where

2026
01:19:08,630 --> 01:19:06,880
even though it's a it's a great report

2027
01:19:09,990 --> 01:19:08,640
this is where i have to back off a

2028
01:19:13,590 --> 01:19:10,000
little bit

2029
01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:13,600
because if i'm just going to be straight

2030
01:19:19,270 --> 01:19:16,080
if if the russians or the chinese

2031
01:19:20,310 --> 01:19:19,280
were surfacing a submarine off the coast

2032
01:19:23,189 --> 01:19:20,320
of uh

2033
01:19:24,070 --> 01:19:23,199
san diego launching a stormy drone right

2034
01:19:27,590 --> 01:19:24,080
right

2035
01:19:30,630 --> 01:19:27,600
um first off or a cargo ship

2036
01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:30,640
could be that right uh a fishing trawler

2037
01:19:35,510 --> 01:19:33,600
right okay so uh why weren't those

2038
01:19:36,390 --> 01:19:35,520
drones shot out of the sky that's an act

2039
01:19:39,669 --> 01:19:36,400
of war

2040
01:19:42,149 --> 01:19:39,679
and number two why would the chinese or

2041
01:19:45,430 --> 01:19:42,159
the russians or anybody else

2042
01:19:47,189 --> 01:19:45,440
have a strobing aircraft light on their

2043
01:19:48,149 --> 01:19:47,199
drone when it's supposed to be a secret

2044
01:19:51,189 --> 01:19:48,159
spy drone

2045
01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:51,199
that's not a good clandestine operation

2046
01:19:54,229 --> 01:19:53,600
um and so i've kind of backed off on

2047
01:19:56,870 --> 01:19:54,239
that

2048
01:19:57,750 --> 01:19:56,880
where i keep going back to well what

2049
01:20:01,110 --> 01:19:57,760
could it be

2050
01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:01,120
what then what is it if it's a drone

2051
01:20:04,790 --> 01:20:03,679
probably united states navy i'm going

2052
01:20:08,310 --> 01:20:04,800
there

2053
01:20:11,510 --> 01:20:08,320
that's an easy thing for me

2054
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:11,520
with itself or or lack of communication

2055
01:20:14,709 --> 01:20:14,159
right a breakdown in communication um

2056
01:20:16,470 --> 01:20:14,719
well as

2057
01:20:18,229 --> 01:20:16,480
as rogue away argued though in that

2058
01:20:19,990 --> 01:20:18,239
article i mean i'm just working off of

2059
01:20:21,910 --> 01:20:20,000
memory here but he said look this

2060
01:20:23,830 --> 01:20:21,920
inquiry went right up to the highest

2061
01:20:25,669 --> 01:20:23,840
ranking navy officer in the pentagon

2062
01:20:26,870 --> 01:20:25,679
yeah they did that in the drive too they

2063
01:20:29,990 --> 01:20:26,880
brought the answer

2064
01:20:31,830 --> 01:20:30,000
right right right um uh

2065
01:20:34,229 --> 01:20:31,840
how could that be if that's if that's

2066
01:20:36,070 --> 01:20:34,239
the navy doing it to himself

2067
01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:36,080
unless they're just not admitting it i

2068
01:20:40,149 --> 01:20:37,600
mean look they're not above

2069
01:20:41,910 --> 01:20:40,159
lying to the public if they just are

2070
01:20:44,070 --> 01:20:41,920
doing their own little thing

2071
01:20:45,510 --> 01:20:44,080
and they're certainly not but but

2072
01:20:48,070 --> 01:20:45,520
they're they they lie about everything

2073
01:20:49,590 --> 01:20:48,080
like they'll lie about ufos as well

2074
01:20:51,669 --> 01:20:49,600
and they they would probably lie if it

2075
01:20:54,310 --> 01:20:51,679
were russian or chinese because that's

2076
01:20:55,430 --> 01:20:54,320
that's not just embarrassing which it is

2077
01:20:57,270 --> 01:20:55,440
very embarrassing

2078
01:20:59,110 --> 01:20:57,280
but it actually could trigger a war that

2079
01:21:00,629 --> 01:20:59,120
would not be worth it

2080
01:21:02,950 --> 01:21:00,639
you know the during the cold war

2081
01:21:04,229 --> 01:21:02,960
americans and russians lost their lives

2082
01:21:05,830 --> 01:21:04,239
getting shot down

2083
01:21:08,390 --> 01:21:05,840
uh you know as we mentioned this before

2084
01:21:10,310 --> 01:21:08,400
but if the american public actually knew

2085
01:21:11,590 --> 01:21:10,320
what was happening in the 50s and 60s

2086
01:21:12,790 --> 01:21:11,600
and 70s

2087
01:21:14,870 --> 01:21:12,800
there would have been a lot of people

2088
01:21:16,709 --> 01:21:14,880
who probably would have wanted war and

2089
01:21:18,149 --> 01:21:16,719
and a war would not have been worth it

2090
01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:18,159
for that cause

2091
01:21:21,430 --> 01:21:20,159
that's the fact you don't want to start

2092
01:21:23,110 --> 01:21:21,440
world war iii

2093
01:21:25,030 --> 01:21:23,120
because the nations are playing these

2094
01:21:26,149 --> 01:21:25,040
little radar games with each other and

2095
01:21:27,510 --> 01:21:26,159
similarly

2096
01:21:29,830 --> 01:21:27,520
with the chinese and russians and the

2097
01:21:32,070 --> 01:21:29,840
americans today like

2098
01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:32,080
you know countries do the u.s does this

2099
01:21:36,229 --> 01:21:33,760
all the time to other nations

2100
01:21:37,910 --> 01:21:36,239
that was a big part of rogue away's uh

2101
01:21:41,030 --> 01:21:37,920
in his article like this is a

2102
01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:41,040
long historical element of how the

2103
01:21:45,110 --> 01:21:42,480
united states

2104
01:21:46,870 --> 01:21:45,120
does things like you they'll send uh

2105
01:21:48,709 --> 01:21:46,880
they'll do radar spoofing of

2106
01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:48,719
of adversaries and they will try to get

2107
01:21:52,149 --> 01:21:49,920
electronic signals

2108
01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:52,159
from the ad just that's what that's done

2109
01:21:56,310 --> 01:21:53,600
it's like spy versus

2110
01:21:57,910 --> 01:21:56,320
spot yes five versus five russians yeah

2111
01:22:00,950 --> 01:21:57,920
you one would expect that

2112
01:22:03,350 --> 01:22:00,960
right right but it's very brazen

2113
01:22:03,990 --> 01:22:03,360
i mean we're talking like right off the

2114
01:22:05,830 --> 01:22:04,000
u.s coast

2115
01:22:07,430 --> 01:22:05,840
and then not only that you've got

2116
01:22:09,350 --> 01:22:07,440
mysterious drone activity

2117
01:22:10,870 --> 01:22:09,360
inside the united states over like

2118
01:22:13,830 --> 01:22:10,880
nuclear facilities

2119
01:22:14,390 --> 01:22:13,840
this has happened now that could be

2120
01:22:16,709 --> 01:22:14,400
literally

2121
01:22:17,990 --> 01:22:16,719
spies working for a foreign country

2122
01:22:20,550 --> 01:22:18,000
sending those drones aloft

2123
01:22:21,669 --> 01:22:20,560
presumably but like wow this is getting

2124
01:22:24,550 --> 01:22:21,679
pretty serious

2125
01:22:26,070 --> 01:22:24,560
and and the one point the very important

2126
01:22:28,629 --> 01:22:26,080
takeaway that i got from his article

2127
01:22:32,390 --> 01:22:28,639
this i'm talking about rogue away here

2128
01:22:33,830 --> 01:22:32,400
is like we have we have got to recognize

2129
01:22:35,750 --> 01:22:33,840
that

2130
01:22:38,390 --> 01:22:35,760
classified drone technology has got to

2131
01:22:40,629 --> 01:22:38,400
be vastly beyond

2132
01:22:41,669 --> 01:22:40,639
anything that we recognize and that's

2133
01:22:43,990 --> 01:22:41,679
got to be true

2134
01:22:45,830 --> 01:22:44,000
so that just is one additional thing

2135
01:22:48,870 --> 01:22:45,840
that's going to muddy the waters

2136
01:22:51,590 --> 01:22:48,880
of the ufo subject but it's

2137
01:22:52,070 --> 01:22:51,600
i think it's a great mistake when people

2138
01:22:54,149 --> 01:22:52,080
therefore

2139
01:22:57,030 --> 01:22:54,159
conclude oh it makes sense that it's a

2140
01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:57,040
drone therefore it must be a drone

2141
01:23:00,470 --> 01:22:59,520
because there are actual genuine ufos

2142
01:23:02,550 --> 01:23:00,480
you're laughing about something i'm

2143
01:23:04,470 --> 01:23:02,560
looking at your face

2144
01:23:06,790 --> 01:23:04,480
i'm i'm getting uh i'm getting trolled

2145
01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:06,800
by dave baby now

2146
01:23:13,430 --> 01:23:08,880
getting trolled he's telling me that the

2147
01:23:20,229 --> 01:23:16,870
baby all these guitars behind you yeah

2148
01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:20,239
yeah yeah yeah um

2149
01:23:32,550 --> 01:23:28,870
when uh when all of this

2150
01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:32,560
starts to break and the media is jumping

2151
01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:33,280
on this

2152
01:23:39,750 --> 01:23:36,400
and and these stories are now

2153
01:23:43,669 --> 01:23:39,760
out there what part of this

2154
01:23:43,990 --> 01:23:43,679
does the navy bear some responsibility

2155
01:23:47,510 --> 01:23:44,000
to

2156
01:23:50,790 --> 01:23:47,520
what way responsibility for

2157
01:23:54,149 --> 01:23:50,800
the leak the leak and if

2158
01:23:57,350 --> 01:23:54,159
to call this a leaked video

2159
01:24:00,870 --> 01:23:57,360
i'm not so sure if that is fair

2160
01:24:03,750 --> 01:24:00,880
i think it's probably more intentional

2161
01:24:06,550 --> 01:24:03,760
and it was given knowing that we've got

2162
01:24:09,350 --> 01:24:06,560
the uap task force report coming out

2163
01:24:11,110 --> 01:24:09,360
and uh scheduled for june but nobody in

2164
01:24:14,229 --> 01:24:11,120
the senate intelligence committee

2165
01:24:16,070 --> 01:24:14,239
is is outraged that uh you know

2166
01:24:17,510 --> 01:24:16,080
evidence is being leaked to the public

2167
01:24:19,430 --> 01:24:17,520
nobody's brought this up the united

2168
01:24:22,070 --> 01:24:19,440
states navy hasn't brought it up

2169
01:24:23,189 --> 01:24:22,080
right but but well i think it's been

2170
01:24:25,110 --> 01:24:23,199
pretty obvious since

2171
01:24:27,350 --> 01:24:25,120
since the formation of ttsa that there

2172
01:24:29,110 --> 01:24:27,360
are factions within the pentagon and

2173
01:24:30,310 --> 01:24:29,120
certainly within the navy

2174
01:24:32,149 --> 01:24:30,320
you know they're not it's not like

2175
01:24:34,870 --> 01:24:32,159
you're dealing with a single monolithic

2176
01:24:36,709 --> 01:24:34,880
organization that's always in unison

2177
01:24:38,070 --> 01:24:36,719
there there are i mean think about all

2178
01:24:40,070 --> 01:24:38,080
the time when you had

2179
01:24:42,149 --> 01:24:40,080
the pentagon was pushing back against

2180
01:24:43,910 --> 01:24:42,159
ttsa for a while and when

2181
01:24:45,669 --> 01:24:43,920
elizondo and mellon got the three

2182
01:24:47,110 --> 01:24:45,679
initial videos released that was them it

2183
01:24:50,229 --> 01:24:47,120
wasn't the navy

2184
01:24:52,390 --> 01:24:50,239
they did that and the navy

2185
01:24:54,149 --> 01:24:52,400
initially didn't really want to own

2186
01:24:55,270 --> 01:24:54,159
those videos and there was all this

2187
01:24:56,709 --> 01:24:55,280
pushback

2188
01:24:59,910 --> 01:24:56,719
uh back and forth there were different

2189
01:25:02,149 --> 01:24:59,920
messages coming out of the pentagon for

2190
01:25:04,870 --> 01:25:02,159
a while so i i just think it's

2191
01:25:06,470 --> 01:25:04,880
symptomatic of the fact that

2192
01:25:08,790 --> 01:25:06,480
you know i'm going back to ttsa here

2193
01:25:11,189 --> 01:25:08,800
which really doesn't even exist

2194
01:25:12,870 --> 01:25:11,199
basically i don't think but they had

2195
01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:12,880
they had friends and they had enemies

2196
01:25:16,310 --> 01:25:14,960
at the same time within the pentagon so

2197
01:25:17,830 --> 01:25:16,320
i think they had people who supported

2198
01:25:19,590 --> 01:25:17,840
them definitely

2199
01:25:21,990 --> 01:25:19,600
and i think they had people within that

2200
01:25:24,550 --> 01:25:22,000
same bureaucracy who just hated them

2201
01:25:25,910 --> 01:25:24,560
and would not support them and that to

2202
01:25:27,350 --> 01:25:25,920
me is normal you're talking about a

2203
01:25:29,830 --> 01:25:27,360
multi-billion dollar

2204
01:25:30,470 --> 01:25:29,840
massive bureaucracy that is the seat of

2205
01:25:32,390 --> 01:25:30,480
power

2206
01:25:33,750 --> 01:25:32,400
in the entire globe of human

2207
01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:33,760
civilization anyway

2208
01:25:37,669 --> 01:25:35,280
of course you're gonna have factions so

2209
01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:37,679
i don't i don't think that's unusual and

2210
01:25:44,229 --> 01:25:41,199
to call this latest thing a leak

2211
01:25:45,590 --> 01:25:44,239
i mean yes someone

2212
01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:45,600
clearly thought it was a good idea to

2213
01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:47,920
get this out to jeremy

2214
01:25:51,189 --> 01:25:50,320
and i'll i think we have to assume that

2215
01:25:52,629 --> 01:25:51,199
there are

2216
01:25:54,149 --> 01:25:52,639
there were probably some prominent

2217
01:25:55,110 --> 01:25:54,159
people within the military within the

2218
01:25:57,510 --> 01:25:55,120
pentagon who are like

2219
01:25:59,590 --> 01:25:57,520
oh gee not again like we're probably not

2220
01:26:01,750 --> 01:25:59,600
happy about this

2221
01:26:03,270 --> 01:26:01,760
but you know maybe the person who was

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01:26:04,790 --> 01:26:03,280
behind it

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01:26:06,790 --> 01:26:04,800
had enough authority or had enough

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01:26:08,950 --> 01:26:06,800
status that he or she thought they could

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01:26:12,229 --> 01:26:08,960
get away with it

2226
01:26:15,189 --> 01:26:12,239
what do we do if if we go back uh to

2227
01:26:16,950 --> 01:26:15,199
the drive a little bit with tyler but if

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01:26:17,350 --> 01:26:16,960
we go back to the drive's article which

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01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:17,360
was

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01:26:20,470 --> 01:26:19,600
about the investigation going into the

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01:26:24,070 --> 01:26:20,480
drones

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01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:24,080
of july 2019 and and how this happened

2233
01:26:27,910 --> 01:26:25,840
where the communication

2234
01:26:29,189 --> 01:26:27,920
uh broke down between you have camp

2235
01:26:30,149 --> 01:26:29,199
pendleton right there you have the

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01:26:33,430 --> 01:26:30,159
united states

2237
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:33,440
navy uh in san diego you have san

2238
01:26:39,669 --> 01:26:36,480
clemente island which is a live fire

2239
01:26:41,350 --> 01:26:39,679
the only live fire uh united states navy

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01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:41,360
installation in the world

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01:26:47,910 --> 01:26:44,719
so there is all kinds of radar

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01:26:50,950 --> 01:26:47,920
radio monitoring communications of

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01:26:53,830 --> 01:26:50,960
all of the air space there and that

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01:26:54,470 --> 01:26:53,840
and the point that they try to stress is

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01:26:58,870 --> 01:26:54,480
that

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01:27:01,669 --> 01:26:58,880
in the air there

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01:27:02,709 --> 01:27:01,679
how could they not know what is

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01:27:05,350 --> 01:27:02,719
happening

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01:27:06,550 --> 01:27:05,360
and i thought that that was a a really

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01:27:08,229 --> 01:27:06,560
good point

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01:27:10,229 --> 01:27:08,239
so the united states navy and the

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01:27:11,590 --> 01:27:10,239
investigation gets kicked off and they

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01:27:14,229 --> 01:27:11,600
want to know

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01:27:14,709 --> 01:27:14,239
how the communication breakdown happened

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01:27:17,750 --> 01:27:14,719
and

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01:27:19,750 --> 01:27:17,760
flying them well

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01:27:21,270 --> 01:27:19,760
one conclusion is that they're way less

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01:27:22,709 --> 01:27:21,280
competent than we think especially for

2259
01:27:24,149 --> 01:27:22,719
the amount of money that they get

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01:27:26,390 --> 01:27:24,159
which is kind of what rogue away was

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01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:26,400
implying yes that's right that's right

2262
01:27:31,110 --> 01:27:29,040
so that's one definite possibility

2263
01:27:34,310 --> 01:27:31,120
another possibility

2264
01:27:36,950 --> 01:27:34,320
is that they're just outmatched

2265
01:27:37,830 --> 01:27:36,960
by a a force that is not from our

2266
01:27:40,790 --> 01:27:37,840
civilization

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01:27:42,070 --> 01:27:40,800
that can just play games with them now

2268
01:27:43,030 --> 01:27:42,080
let's just recognize that as a

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01:27:44,790 --> 01:27:43,040
possibility

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01:27:47,350 --> 01:27:44,800
because how else do you explain to 2014

2271
01:27:48,310 --> 01:27:47,360
2015 uss roosevelt encounters you had

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01:27:51,669 --> 01:27:48,320
hundreds of them

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01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:51,679
apparently you know cubesats

2274
01:27:57,750 --> 01:27:55,280
yeah cubesats at that well okay now

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01:27:59,669 --> 01:27:57,760
if it comes out in this investigation if

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01:28:01,669 --> 01:27:59,679
the investigation is ongoing and

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01:28:05,669 --> 01:28:01,679
continuing which it appears that it

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01:28:06,629 --> 01:28:05,679
is and then it the the conclusion is

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01:28:08,470 --> 01:28:06,639
that

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01:28:10,229 --> 01:28:08,480
these were drones flown off of san

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01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:10,239
clemente island it was the united states

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01:28:13,830 --> 01:28:12,000
navy and they didn't let

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01:28:15,590 --> 01:28:13,840
the ellis and these other ships know

2284
01:28:16,149 --> 01:28:15,600
that they were flying these drones over

2285
01:28:19,669 --> 01:28:16,159
they were

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01:28:22,709 --> 01:28:19,679
ours what does that do to the entire

2287
01:28:24,310 --> 01:28:22,719
uh uh situation here

2288
01:28:25,750 --> 01:28:24,320
with everything that has been laid out

2289
01:28:27,910 --> 01:28:25,760
these were out yes

2290
01:28:29,830 --> 01:28:27,920
if it was the united states navy flying

2291
01:28:31,430 --> 01:28:29,840
drones off of san clemente island

2292
01:28:34,149 --> 01:28:31,440
they would never be able to admit that

2293
01:28:36,629 --> 01:28:34,159
of course they could never admit that

2294
01:28:38,310 --> 01:28:36,639
i mean first of all you'd be telling

2295
01:28:40,310 --> 01:28:38,320
other nations yeah we got these amazing

2296
01:28:43,510 --> 01:28:40,320
drones that can really play games with

2297
01:28:45,669 --> 01:28:43,520
our top level destroyers you don't you

2298
01:28:48,149 --> 01:28:45,679
don't want to advertise that

2299
01:28:49,350 --> 01:28:48,159
and i mean just secondly it's at this

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01:28:52,149 --> 01:28:49,360
point

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01:28:53,510 --> 01:28:52,159
i think it would be probably a public

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01:28:55,110 --> 01:28:53,520
relations

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01:28:56,629 --> 01:28:55,120
problem wouldn't you think you know if

2304
01:28:58,070 --> 01:28:56,639
the navy were to say oh well actually

2305
01:29:00,310 --> 01:28:58,080
yeah we're just screwing with our own

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01:29:01,510 --> 01:29:00,320
we're doing we're doing testing of our

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01:29:03,510 --> 01:29:01,520
new tech with our

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01:29:04,870 --> 01:29:03,520
with our destroyers well there was i

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01:29:05,669 --> 01:29:04,880
mean it's a reasonable thing to say but

2310
01:29:08,070 --> 01:29:05,679
it's just

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01:29:09,990 --> 01:29:08,080
that's right that's right and uh there

2312
01:29:13,110 --> 01:29:10,000
was another point

2313
01:29:15,030 --> 01:29:13,120
in this investigation that needs to be

2314
01:29:16,149 --> 01:29:15,040
spoken about and that was there was a

2315
01:29:19,350 --> 01:29:16,159
private

2316
01:29:21,270 --> 01:29:19,360
civilian 50-foot catamaran that was out

2317
01:29:22,070 --> 01:29:21,280
there that they were interested in and

2318
01:29:24,070 --> 01:29:22,080
so they're

2319
01:29:25,270 --> 01:29:24,080
yeah it was right off san clemente

2320
01:29:27,910 --> 01:29:25,280
island i believe that's right

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01:29:29,750 --> 01:29:27,920
and and so they they chased down the

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01:29:33,750 --> 01:29:29,760
owner of that catamaran

2323
01:29:36,709 --> 01:29:33,760
and were specifically going after drones

2324
01:29:37,430 --> 01:29:36,719
and did you have drones out so it seems

2325
01:29:38,950 --> 01:29:37,440
like the name

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01:29:40,950 --> 01:29:38,960
and they said the drones they had had

2327
01:29:43,910 --> 01:29:40,960
like an extremely limited range

2328
01:29:44,550 --> 01:29:43,920
we're talking a few feet right right

2329
01:29:46,229 --> 01:29:44,560
right right

2330
01:29:47,590 --> 01:29:46,239
it couldn't possibly do that that's

2331
01:29:49,590 --> 01:29:47,600
right but

2332
01:29:50,870 --> 01:29:49,600
drones is what they were looking for it

2333
01:29:53,590 --> 01:29:50,880
was the navy is

2334
01:29:55,430 --> 01:29:53,600
chasing drones here right they didn't

2335
01:29:58,470 --> 01:29:55,440
approach the catamaran to see if they

2336
01:30:01,350 --> 01:29:58,480
had flying pyramids

2337
01:30:02,070 --> 01:30:01,360
well i i think it would have been

2338
01:30:03,590 --> 01:30:02,080
implied

2339
01:30:05,189 --> 01:30:03,600
i mean don't you think like if you're if

2340
01:30:05,990 --> 01:30:05,199
you're the owner of the catamaran and

2341
01:30:07,669 --> 01:30:06,000
the navy's coming

2342
01:30:09,030 --> 01:30:07,679
up to you hey we're looking for drones

2343
01:30:11,830 --> 01:30:09,040
because someone's screwing with our

2344
01:30:13,189 --> 01:30:11,840
vessels you're like oh yeah well drones

2345
01:30:13,910 --> 01:30:13,199
oh you said drones you didn't say

2346
01:30:16,390 --> 01:30:13,920
pyramids

2347
01:30:17,669 --> 01:30:16,400
right right they're not gonna do that i

2348
01:30:20,070 --> 01:30:17,679
don't have drones

2349
01:30:21,910 --> 01:30:20,080
but i do have a really nice anunnaki

2350
01:30:22,950 --> 01:30:21,920
pyramid back here would you like to see

2351
01:30:25,430 --> 01:30:22,960
that

2352
01:30:27,430 --> 01:30:25,440
um and and this is the other point and

2353
01:30:31,750 --> 01:30:27,440
i've only got a 30 seconds here

2354
01:30:35,189 --> 01:30:31,760
nobody wants anunnaki atlantean flying

2355
01:30:38,950 --> 01:30:35,199
pyramids harassing our navy more than me

2356
01:30:41,750 --> 01:30:38,960
i i want that i truly do i i really do

2357
01:30:42,229 --> 01:30:41,760
i'm just not so sure that this is the

2358
01:30:45,590 --> 01:30:42,239
case

2359
01:30:46,870 --> 01:30:45,600
this time so um uh we've got much more

2360
01:30:47,669 --> 01:30:46,880
to talk about let's take a break right

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01:30:50,709 --> 01:30:47,679
here

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01:30:54,310 --> 01:30:50,719
this is fade to black our guest tonight

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richard dolan yeah oh richard cleared

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01:36:36,950 --> 01:36:32,639
richard dolan now richard

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01:36:40,229 --> 01:36:36,960
uh i'm trying to think now

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01:36:43,350 --> 01:36:40,239
when the davis wilson

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document started to leak and and the

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01:36:47,109 --> 01:36:45,520
conversations that you and i were having

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01:36:48,550 --> 01:36:47,119
you know this this goes back now this

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01:36:51,590 --> 01:36:48,560
goes back two or three years

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01:36:52,550 --> 01:36:51,600
and it's hard to believe june of 2019 is

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01:36:56,070 --> 01:36:52,560
when it actually

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01:36:59,109 --> 01:36:56,080
made it splash and i remember i uh

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01:37:03,030 --> 01:36:59,119
grant cameron uh

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01:37:05,990 --> 01:37:03,040
that was february of that year when

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he approached me with his attorney dude

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i got that right and

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and and and

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and and then things blew up right after

2496
01:37:17,430 --> 01:37:14,639
that uh you know what

2497
01:37:19,270 --> 01:37:17,440
can i just say this i'll never forget

2498
01:37:19,990 --> 01:37:19,280
the conversations that you and i were

2499
01:37:23,030 --> 01:37:20,000
having daily

2500
01:37:24,390 --> 01:37:23,040
dude did you read page four yes man did

2501
01:37:27,430 --> 01:37:24,400
you get to page five

2502
01:37:29,430 --> 01:37:27,440
and and the excitement that we had

2503
01:37:32,229 --> 01:37:29,440
over over these documents and the way

2504
01:37:34,550 --> 01:37:32,239
that we poured over them and this is

2505
01:37:36,070 --> 01:37:34,560
this was before the leak well that was

2506
01:37:38,950 --> 01:37:36,080
leak too as well

2507
01:37:40,629 --> 01:37:38,960
where uh we got this via email

2508
01:37:43,109 --> 01:37:40,639
independently and it hadn't

2509
01:37:43,750 --> 01:37:43,119
hadn't burst out into the public yet it

2510
01:37:46,950 --> 01:37:43,760
was like

2511
01:37:50,149 --> 01:37:46,960
burn after reading right that's yeah

2512
01:37:51,270 --> 01:37:50,159
do you remember um you must remember

2513
01:37:54,550 --> 01:37:51,280
this

2514
01:37:56,149 --> 01:37:54,560
in december of 2018 i did a spot on your

2515
01:37:58,550 --> 01:37:56,159
program here

2516
01:37:59,430 --> 01:37:58,560
and you you i think it was when we were

2517
01:38:01,430 --> 01:37:59,440
closing

2518
01:38:03,590 --> 01:38:01,440
and it was like your i think your last

2519
01:38:06,470 --> 01:38:03,600
question was like

2520
01:38:07,109 --> 01:38:06,480
was there anything that you learned that

2521
01:38:10,870 --> 01:38:07,119
you've

2522
01:38:13,590 --> 01:38:10,880
you're talking about the pages

2523
01:38:15,669 --> 01:38:13,600
yeah the single pages and and that was

2524
01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:15,679
in december 2018. that was like six

2525
01:38:19,030 --> 01:38:16,000
months

2526
01:38:20,629 --> 01:38:19,040
before and it was the first time

2527
01:38:22,870 --> 01:38:20,639
it wasn't the first time that i actually

2528
01:38:24,070 --> 01:38:22,880
talked about this but it was the first

2529
01:38:26,790 --> 01:38:24,080
time that i mentioned

2530
01:38:27,750 --> 01:38:26,800
that i'd been shown documents i remember

2531
01:38:29,910 --> 01:38:27,760
that was the difference

2532
01:38:31,350 --> 01:38:29,920
and i um because what happened was i was

2533
01:38:34,229 --> 01:38:31,360
shown this

2534
01:38:36,550 --> 01:38:34,239
by a i still haven't given this guy up

2535
01:38:38,629 --> 01:38:36,560
and i'm not going to uh he

2536
01:38:41,189 --> 01:38:38,639
unless unless he passes away before me

2537
01:38:45,350 --> 01:38:41,199
then i will i will absolutely do that

2538
01:38:47,030 --> 01:38:45,360
but um so i was shown

2539
01:38:48,310 --> 01:38:47,040
it was either two or three and i still

2540
01:38:49,830 --> 01:38:48,320
can't remember two or three of those

2541
01:38:52,950 --> 01:38:49,840
pages of the davis's notes

2542
01:38:55,270 --> 01:38:52,960
on wilson back in 2006.

2543
01:38:56,950 --> 01:38:55,280
all right so it was a long time ago and

2544
01:38:58,629 --> 01:38:56,960
in fact i saw the page where he's

2545
01:39:00,149 --> 01:38:58,639
talking about not made by man not by

2546
01:39:02,870 --> 01:39:00,159
human hands like i

2547
01:39:04,149 --> 01:39:02,880
absolutely read that okay so it's not

2548
01:39:09,590 --> 01:39:04,159
something that you forget

2549
01:39:12,229 --> 01:39:09,600
and so i did all in 0708 09 in 2010

2550
01:39:13,350 --> 01:39:12,239
i talked about this in various

2551
01:39:16,629 --> 01:39:13,360
conferences

2552
01:39:18,390 --> 01:39:16,639
interviews i've hunted them down

2553
01:39:19,990 --> 01:39:18,400
it's all out there i actually did so

2554
01:39:22,790 --> 01:39:20,000
what i said was

2555
01:39:24,629 --> 01:39:22,800
i talked about thomas wilson i talked

2556
01:39:26,709 --> 01:39:24,639
about how i learned that he had tried

2557
01:39:28,229 --> 01:39:26,719
and failed to get access to

2558
01:39:29,830 --> 01:39:28,239
special access program i didn't have all

2559
01:39:33,030 --> 01:39:29,840
the details right but i had

2560
01:39:35,030 --> 01:39:33,040
the basic story correct so

2561
01:39:36,790 --> 01:39:35,040
uh and then as we learned like edgar

2562
01:39:38,070 --> 01:39:36,800
mitchell my god was talking like 20

2563
01:39:40,390 --> 01:39:38,080
times more than i ever did

2564
01:39:41,750 --> 01:39:40,400
there's a zillion interviews now you can

2565
01:39:44,870 --> 01:39:41,760
find a bedroom mitchell

2566
01:39:46,870 --> 01:39:44,880
from 2005 2006 7-8

2567
01:39:48,709 --> 01:39:46,880
and he's talking explicitly about going

2568
01:39:50,629 --> 01:39:48,719
with stephen greer to the pentagon

2569
01:39:52,790 --> 01:39:50,639
meeting with an admiral like he says

2570
01:39:55,350 --> 01:39:52,800
admiral he doesn't give up wilson's name

2571
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:55,360
and he talks about how yes he got back

2572
01:39:59,590 --> 01:39:56,639
to me and said

2573
01:40:00,070 --> 01:39:59,600
i got nowhere with this so mitchell was

2574
01:40:03,109 --> 01:40:00,080
like

2575
01:40:05,750 --> 01:40:03,119
talking explicitly and he was

2576
01:40:07,669 --> 01:40:05,760
in the perfect position obviously for

2577
01:40:09,030 --> 01:40:07,679
this i mean he was tight with davis

2578
01:40:10,870 --> 01:40:09,040
they were all part of nids they're on

2579
01:40:12,950 --> 01:40:10,880
the board of robert bigelow's nids

2580
01:40:14,870 --> 01:40:12,960
national institute for discovery science

2581
01:40:17,109 --> 01:40:14,880
and he was there with greer he was there

2582
01:40:19,350 --> 01:40:17,119
with commander will miller of the navy

2583
01:40:20,149 --> 01:40:19,360
who still will not admit that he wrote

2584
01:40:22,070 --> 01:40:20,159
the letter

2585
01:40:23,350 --> 01:40:22,080
that is in the document i mean it's

2586
01:40:26,550 --> 01:40:23,360
ridiculous

2587
01:40:27,430 --> 01:40:26,560
that the contortions that people are

2588
01:40:29,590 --> 01:40:27,440
going through

2589
01:40:30,790 --> 01:40:29,600
to deny this when all they should be

2590
01:40:33,109 --> 01:40:30,800
doing is reading it and

2591
01:40:34,070 --> 01:40:33,119
learning because that's where the gold

2592
01:40:36,470 --> 01:40:34,080
is it's in

2593
01:40:37,189 --> 01:40:36,480
learning what is in that document it's

2594
01:40:40,390 --> 01:40:37,199
amazing

2595
01:40:41,189 --> 01:40:40,400
i keep it on my desktop and i just pull

2596
01:40:43,270 --> 01:40:41,199
it up

2597
01:40:45,030 --> 01:40:43,280
you know and just and read through it

2598
01:40:47,430 --> 01:40:45,040
and i and i always get

2599
01:40:49,189 --> 01:40:47,440
another nugget out of it as many times

2600
01:40:51,030 --> 01:40:49,199
as i've read it

2601
01:40:52,470 --> 01:40:51,040
i've had a lot of moments where i've

2602
01:40:55,590 --> 01:40:52,480
just stepped back and went

2603
01:40:57,030 --> 01:40:55,600
wait a minute um that the will miller

2604
01:40:59,030 --> 01:40:57,040
letter

2605
01:41:00,229 --> 01:40:59,040
again we can point at any page of the

2606
01:41:02,310 --> 01:41:00,239
document and go

2607
01:41:03,510 --> 01:41:02,320
you know this is uh pretty extraordinary

2608
01:41:06,390 --> 01:41:03,520
but that letter

2609
01:41:07,109 --> 01:41:06,400
is is incredible it's just incredible

2610
01:41:11,590 --> 01:41:07,119
and

2611
01:41:13,669 --> 01:41:11,600
off has said like he

2612
01:41:15,830 --> 01:41:13,679
communicated with miller he actually no

2613
01:41:17,990 --> 01:41:15,840
i know he said this

2614
01:41:19,030 --> 01:41:18,000
so it's like what are we hiding from

2615
01:41:21,030 --> 01:41:19,040
here

2616
01:41:23,510 --> 01:41:21,040
what you know it's like it's right out

2617
01:41:26,790 --> 01:41:23,520
there well i we know what's happening

2618
01:41:28,790 --> 01:41:26,800
can can i just ex lay this out so a very

2619
01:41:30,149 --> 01:41:28,800
sensitive

2620
01:41:31,030 --> 01:41:30,159
i mean there may be people listening you

2621
01:41:32,390 --> 01:41:31,040
don't know what the hell we're talking

2622
01:41:33,590 --> 01:41:32,400
about so i'm just going to very bare

2623
01:41:35,669 --> 01:41:33,600
bones this

2624
01:41:38,070 --> 01:41:35,679
1997 stephen grayer is making the rounds

2625
01:41:40,629 --> 01:41:38,080
in dc and he's got information about

2626
01:41:42,870 --> 01:41:40,639
deeply clandestine

2627
01:41:44,629 --> 01:41:42,880
programs dealing with reverse

2628
01:41:46,390 --> 01:41:44,639
engineering of alien tech

2629
01:41:49,350 --> 01:41:46,400
all right and he is convinced that these

2630
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:49,360
are beyond the normal purview of the

2631
01:41:52,310 --> 01:41:50,800
government itself

2632
01:41:53,750 --> 01:41:52,320
and he's got mitchell along he's got

2633
01:41:54,790 --> 01:41:53,760
commander will miller along he's got

2634
01:41:56,310 --> 01:41:54,800
some other people with him

2635
01:41:57,910 --> 01:41:56,320
and they're basically knocking on doors

2636
01:42:00,310 --> 01:41:57,920
and they are able

2637
01:42:01,109 --> 01:42:00,320
astonishingly to get an interview with

2638
01:42:04,390 --> 01:42:01,119
the

2639
01:42:05,350 --> 01:42:04,400
joint chiefs of staff at that time

2640
01:42:07,430 --> 01:42:05,360
thomas wilson

2641
01:42:09,189 --> 01:42:07,440
thomas ray wilson and it's not just

2642
01:42:11,750 --> 01:42:09,199
wilson there's other people involved in

2643
01:42:13,109 --> 01:42:11,760
in the thing greer gives a presentation

2644
01:42:15,510 --> 01:42:13,119
corso's book

2645
01:42:17,270 --> 01:42:15,520
was coming out it was in the news and i

2646
01:42:19,990 --> 01:42:17,280
you know grier's talking about that

2647
01:42:21,990 --> 01:42:20,000
but at the end wilson and miller chat

2648
01:42:24,870 --> 01:42:22,000
this is all in the document

2649
01:42:26,709 --> 01:42:24,880
and because they're navy colleagues

2650
01:42:28,790 --> 01:42:26,719
they're talking about majestic 12.

2651
01:42:30,310 --> 01:42:28,800
anyway i'm getting ahead of myself so

2652
01:42:33,510 --> 01:42:30,320
wilson

2653
01:42:35,830 --> 01:42:33,520
goes off on his two-month wild goose

2654
01:42:38,870 --> 01:42:35,840
chase to look for this program

2655
01:42:41,430 --> 01:42:38,880
and he he gets the help of

2656
01:42:43,510 --> 01:42:41,440
among other people recent secretary of

2657
01:42:46,629 --> 01:42:43,520
defense william perry

2658
01:42:48,790 --> 01:42:46,639
and other individuals and he finds that

2659
01:42:51,189 --> 01:42:48,800
this thing is so hidden away it

2660
01:42:52,790 --> 01:42:51,199
basically it's illegal the way that this

2661
01:42:54,790 --> 01:42:52,800
is hidden it should be illegal

2662
01:42:56,390 --> 01:42:54,800
you got programs under false names

2663
01:42:59,669 --> 01:42:56,400
buried under other programs

2664
01:43:02,470 --> 01:42:59,679
like this is not and it's within the uh

2665
01:43:03,669 --> 01:43:02,480
the special access program oversight

2666
01:43:05,750 --> 01:43:03,679
committee sapoc

2667
01:43:07,669 --> 01:43:05,760
it's the name of it and he's going into

2668
01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:07,679
there and he's looking at these false

2669
01:43:10,790 --> 01:43:08,880
descriptions

2670
01:43:12,070 --> 01:43:10,800
and he's like this is a lot of bs he

2671
01:43:15,750 --> 01:43:12,080
sees what seem to be

2672
01:43:17,350 --> 01:43:15,760
four programs that deal with

2673
01:43:19,350 --> 01:43:17,360
et reverse engineering when he goes

2674
01:43:21,750 --> 01:43:19,360
through the main one

2675
01:43:24,229 --> 01:43:21,760
talks to what he calls the gatekeepers

2676
01:43:25,910 --> 01:43:24,239
these are private industry guys probably

2677
01:43:26,629 --> 01:43:25,920
lockheed martin but we don't have total

2678
01:43:29,030 --> 01:43:26,639
confirmation

2679
01:43:30,470 --> 01:43:29,040
that's probably what it was the program

2680
01:43:34,070 --> 01:43:30,480
manager the security manager

2681
01:43:35,669 --> 01:43:34,080
and the corporate attorney perfect

2682
01:43:37,750 --> 01:43:35,679
and he's like this is your mistake for

2683
01:43:39,270 --> 01:43:37,760
not letting me have oversight over you

2684
01:43:41,990 --> 01:43:39,280
and they're like yeah yeah whatever

2685
01:43:43,669 --> 01:43:42,000
yeah these guys are not worried at all

2686
01:43:45,910 --> 01:43:43,679
and the best part about it

2687
01:43:47,510 --> 01:43:45,920
and for the audience to clearly

2688
01:43:50,870 --> 01:43:47,520
understand what we're talking about

2689
01:43:51,990 --> 01:43:50,880
right they took his calls he's calling

2690
01:43:55,910 --> 01:43:52,000
private companies

2691
01:43:58,229 --> 01:43:55,920
they pick up the phone he is able to

2692
01:43:59,590 --> 01:43:58,239
communicate and as soon as he's happy

2693
01:44:03,750 --> 01:43:59,600
we're unhappy about it

2694
01:44:05,830 --> 01:44:03,760
it was all good until he brings up

2695
01:44:07,510 --> 01:44:05,840
these special access programs and starts

2696
01:44:10,790 --> 01:44:07,520
to get specific

2697
01:44:12,470 --> 01:44:10,800
and and how how they are funded and how

2698
01:44:14,709 --> 01:44:12,480
they are represented

2699
01:44:17,109 --> 01:44:14,719
uh in government and as soon as he went

2700
01:44:19,270 --> 01:44:17,119
there conversation was over

2701
01:44:20,550 --> 01:44:19,280
well they gave him they had to throw him

2702
01:44:22,390 --> 01:44:20,560
some kind of bone

2703
01:44:24,070 --> 01:44:22,400
because he was really becoming a hassle

2704
01:44:24,550 --> 01:44:24,080
for them you know one thing that comes

2705
01:44:27,830 --> 01:44:24,560
out in

2706
01:44:29,590 --> 01:44:27,840
in davis's interview of wilson

2707
01:44:31,030 --> 01:44:29,600
several years later in 2003 these are

2708
01:44:34,310 --> 01:44:31,040
the notes okay

2709
01:44:36,470 --> 01:44:34,320
eric davis is that this group had almost

2710
01:44:37,350 --> 01:44:36,480
been totally exposed just a few years

2711
01:44:40,390 --> 01:44:37,360
earlier

2712
01:44:42,390 --> 01:44:40,400
and that was in a pentagon audit process

2713
01:44:44,229 --> 01:44:42,400
and this auditor apparently stumbled

2714
01:44:46,229 --> 01:44:44,239
onto them and they were like that this

2715
01:44:48,149 --> 01:44:46,239
in a moment where they had to read the

2716
01:44:50,470 --> 01:44:48,159
guy into the program they were not happy

2717
01:44:51,990 --> 01:44:50,480
and then after as a result of that they

2718
01:44:55,669 --> 01:44:52,000
worked out with the

2719
01:44:59,030 --> 01:44:55,679
senior review group to

2720
01:45:00,629 --> 01:44:59,040
uh which consisted of uh i've got the

2721
01:45:01,910 --> 01:45:00,639
deputy under secretary of defense who's

2722
01:45:02,790 --> 01:45:01,920
the chairman the director of special

2723
01:45:04,390 --> 01:45:02,800
programs

2724
01:45:05,590 --> 01:45:04,400
and an executive secretary so they go

2725
01:45:06,550 --> 01:45:05,600
with these guys and they're like we need

2726
01:45:09,990 --> 01:45:06,560
to hide this

2727
01:45:12,709 --> 01:45:10,000
better and they do that

2728
01:45:14,390 --> 01:45:12,719
they hi they hide it better somehow

2729
01:45:16,790 --> 01:45:14,400
making it even more impervious

2730
01:45:18,149 --> 01:45:16,800
and wilson still found it and really you

2731
01:45:19,750 --> 01:45:18,159
got to give steven greer credit here

2732
01:45:22,870 --> 01:45:19,760
because it was greer's

2733
01:45:25,510 --> 01:45:22,880
initiative and his information that got

2734
01:45:28,070 --> 01:45:25,520
this whole ball rolling but the point is

2735
01:45:28,709 --> 01:45:28,080
you've got a completely i mean it seems

2736
01:45:31,669 --> 01:45:28,719
to me this

2737
01:45:32,390 --> 01:45:31,679
is an illegal structure how is this

2738
01:45:34,550 --> 01:45:32,400
legal

2739
01:45:35,510 --> 01:45:34,560
you've got three guys in the pentagon

2740
01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:35,520
who are able to

2741
01:45:42,310 --> 01:45:38,800
bury this reverse engineering et program

2742
01:45:45,030 --> 01:45:42,320
okay and so that wilson

2743
01:45:46,870 --> 01:45:45,040
realistically probably didn't have i

2744
01:45:48,310 --> 01:45:46,880
mean he didn't have the authority we

2745
01:45:49,910 --> 01:45:48,320
you know people have written articles

2746
01:45:52,870 --> 01:45:49,920
you should have known well no back in

2747
01:45:55,990 --> 01:45:52,880
1997 there's no way he should have known

2748
01:45:57,430 --> 01:45:56,000
all of this was new and you know wilson

2749
01:45:58,550 --> 01:45:57,440
was new into his position how is he

2750
01:46:00,870 --> 01:45:58,560
supposed to know

2751
01:46:02,870 --> 01:46:00,880
what what the absolute limits of this

2752
01:46:05,109 --> 01:46:02,880
job description were that's ridiculous

2753
01:46:06,550 --> 01:46:05,119
so the point though is the whole thing

2754
01:46:09,590 --> 01:46:06,560
gets buried away from him

2755
01:46:13,990 --> 01:46:09,600
he's enough of a nuisance he goes

2756
01:46:16,870 --> 01:46:14,000
out there to talk to these guys and

2757
01:46:17,750 --> 01:46:16,880
you know yes they give up they give up

2758
01:46:19,430 --> 01:46:17,760
the main

2759
01:46:21,510 --> 01:46:19,440
prize of information that they have an

2760
01:46:23,350 --> 01:46:21,520
intact craft

2761
01:46:25,430 --> 01:46:23,360
they don't know where it's from and then

2762
01:46:27,030 --> 01:46:25,440
they probably lied by saying yeah we

2763
01:46:27,350 --> 01:46:27,040
haven't been able to make any progress

2764
01:46:30,470 --> 01:46:27,360
like

2765
01:46:32,470 --> 01:46:30,480
sure guys you haven't made any progress

2766
01:46:34,390 --> 01:46:32,480
tell me something else like that's

2767
01:46:36,709 --> 01:46:34,400
that's a line in my opinion that's just

2768
01:46:37,990 --> 01:46:36,719
total bs but they had to tell him they

2769
01:46:40,310 --> 01:46:38,000
had to give him

2770
01:46:42,149 --> 01:46:40,320
they couldn't lie completely because

2771
01:46:45,910 --> 01:46:42,159
he'd he'd gone out there and

2772
01:46:47,910 --> 01:46:45,920
he was this was an annoyance

2773
01:46:49,430 --> 01:46:47,920
so and then they showed him what was

2774
01:46:50,790 --> 01:46:49,440
called the big up list which was the

2775
01:46:51,510 --> 01:46:50,800
list of the guys who read into the

2776
01:46:52,550 --> 01:46:51,520
program

2777
01:46:55,030 --> 01:46:52,560
and i think he said it was something

2778
01:46:57,910 --> 01:46:55,040
like six or eight hundred mostly

2779
01:46:59,350 --> 01:46:57,920
corporate guys very few defense people

2780
01:47:01,669 --> 01:46:59,360
he said

2781
01:47:03,270 --> 01:47:01,679
so you've got a situation where you've

2782
01:47:05,990 --> 01:47:03,280
got a private

2783
01:47:08,310 --> 01:47:06,000
contracting organization major defense

2784
01:47:10,149 --> 01:47:08,320
contract with the united states military

2785
01:47:11,830 --> 01:47:10,159
that clearly is running circles around

2786
01:47:14,870 --> 01:47:11,840
the military itself

2787
01:47:18,709 --> 01:47:14,880
by and large oversight is essentially

2788
01:47:21,030 --> 01:47:18,719
meaningless it's a fiction frankly

2789
01:47:23,510 --> 01:47:21,040
and you've got ufo researchers here who

2790
01:47:26,070 --> 01:47:23,520
honestly are displaying cowardice

2791
01:47:27,830 --> 01:47:26,080
or worse in not even bothering to look

2792
01:47:30,390 --> 01:47:27,840
at this and take it seriously

2793
01:47:31,830 --> 01:47:30,400
you've got this is everyone knows why no

2794
01:47:33,669 --> 01:47:31,840
one wants to admit to it

2795
01:47:35,430 --> 01:47:33,679
you got davis and you got put off you

2796
01:47:37,590 --> 01:47:35,440
got even

2797
01:47:39,030 --> 01:47:37,600
kid green's really only very indirectly

2798
01:47:41,109 --> 01:47:39,040
related here he's not part of that but

2799
01:47:43,109 --> 01:47:41,119
they're all part of the same little club

2800
01:47:45,030 --> 01:47:43,119
having all of these conversations

2801
01:47:47,830 --> 01:47:45,040
mitchell was part of that

2802
01:47:49,669 --> 01:47:47,840
you know they were they all shared and

2803
01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:49,679
when mitchell came back from his meeting

2804
01:47:53,910 --> 01:47:51,280
with greer of course he's going to talk

2805
01:47:54,550 --> 01:47:53,920
to guys like put off and davis and the

2806
01:47:56,790 --> 01:47:54,560
rest and

2807
01:47:58,149 --> 01:47:56,800
probably colm keller and everyone else

2808
01:47:59,830 --> 01:47:58,159
associated with knits and obviously

2809
01:48:02,149 --> 01:47:59,840
robert bigelow

2810
01:48:03,109 --> 01:48:02,159
kid green clearly all of these guys

2811
01:48:05,910 --> 01:48:03,119
obviously

2812
01:48:07,990 --> 01:48:05,920
knew but even though this was an

2813
01:48:11,430 --> 01:48:08,000
informal thing

2814
01:48:14,070 --> 01:48:11,440
right there they're not acting in in the

2815
01:48:15,030 --> 01:48:14,080
capacity of like this is not an official

2816
01:48:16,550 --> 01:48:15,040
government document

2817
01:48:18,390 --> 01:48:16,560
they you know they send davis off a few

2818
01:48:19,910 --> 01:48:18,400
years later interview wilson about this

2819
01:48:21,590 --> 01:48:19,920
this is not an official government

2820
01:48:24,070 --> 01:48:21,600
document but it does

2821
01:48:26,070 --> 01:48:24,080
deal with a sensitive issue and all of

2822
01:48:27,430 --> 01:48:26,080
them have security clearances

2823
01:48:30,310 --> 01:48:27,440
so obviously they're not going to just

2824
01:48:33,189 --> 01:48:30,320
say oh yeah you know we did a really

2825
01:48:34,790 --> 01:48:33,199
crap job with when mitchell died and we

2826
01:48:36,950 --> 01:48:34,800
didn't get custody over his

2827
01:48:38,550 --> 01:48:36,960
document and we let that thing leak out

2828
01:48:39,510 --> 01:48:38,560
which is basically what happened that's

2829
01:48:41,910 --> 01:48:39,520
what happened to their

2830
01:48:45,750 --> 01:48:41,920
absolute embarrassment you know mitchell

2831
01:48:48,550 --> 01:48:45,760
dies what was it in 2016 2017 he dies

2832
01:48:50,229 --> 01:48:48,560
and for and i think this can come out

2833
01:48:52,149 --> 01:48:50,239
now like he had

2834
01:48:53,590 --> 01:48:52,159
problematical relationships with some

2835
01:48:55,430 --> 01:48:53,600
family members and they just wanted to

2836
01:48:57,350 --> 01:48:55,440
get rid of everything

2837
01:48:59,030 --> 01:48:57,360
like a lot of and i mean other than the

2838
01:49:00,709 --> 01:48:59,040
stuff that was like valuable

2839
01:49:02,550 --> 01:49:00,719
but like a lot of the old papers the ufo

2840
01:49:05,590 --> 01:49:02,560
stuff and there was one

2841
01:49:07,109 --> 01:49:05,600
man who was very tight with edgar

2842
01:49:07,750 --> 01:49:07,119
mitchell who said please don't get rid

2843
01:49:09,830 --> 01:49:07,760
of this

2844
01:49:10,950 --> 01:49:09,840
may i please take it and that's what

2845
01:49:14,149 --> 01:49:10,960
happened

2846
01:49:17,270 --> 01:49:14,159
and there is yes you know the rest is

2847
01:49:17,910 --> 01:49:17,280
eventually leaks out in the uh will

2848
01:49:21,990 --> 01:49:17,920
miller

2849
01:49:23,750 --> 01:49:22,000
letter uh there are two paragraphs here

2850
01:49:25,669 --> 01:49:23,760
that stand out and we're talking about

2851
01:49:27,030 --> 01:49:25,679
hal and we're talking about eric davis

2852
01:49:30,310 --> 01:49:27,040
and of course kit green

2853
01:49:31,270 --> 01:49:30,320
and and others where that close knit

2854
01:49:34,390 --> 01:49:31,280
group

2855
01:49:37,510 --> 01:49:34,400
still exists today as a close-knit

2856
01:49:39,589 --> 01:49:37,520
group and right right and

2857
01:49:40,950 --> 01:49:39,599
so this this is what will miller says

2858
01:49:42,950 --> 01:49:40,960
and i'm going to read directly

2859
01:49:44,470 --> 01:49:42,960
from the letter so i don't have it in

2860
01:49:46,310 --> 01:49:44,480
front of me so i'd like to hear it again

2861
01:49:47,990 --> 01:49:46,320
i just love this okay so this is what

2862
01:49:51,189 --> 01:49:48,000
will says he says

2863
01:49:54,310 --> 01:49:51,199
uh this is his letter to eric davis

2864
01:49:54,870 --> 01:49:54,320
he says i will i i would be willing to

2865
01:49:58,149 --> 01:49:54,880
assist

2866
01:49:58,790 --> 01:49:58,159
you and how put off with your ongoing

2867
01:50:01,510 --> 01:49:58,800
research

2868
01:50:03,430 --> 01:50:01,520
into ufo crash retrievals and the

2869
01:50:06,790 --> 01:50:03,440
entities within the government

2870
01:50:11,189 --> 01:50:06,800
or outside of it that are involved in

2871
01:50:13,030 --> 01:50:11,199
that business with the following caveats

2872
01:50:14,790 --> 01:50:13,040
and this is the second this is the other

2873
01:50:16,149 --> 01:50:14,800
paragraph um

2874
01:50:18,310 --> 01:50:16,159
that i think is so important he says

2875
01:50:21,510 --> 01:50:18,320
first there

2876
01:50:25,510 --> 01:50:21,520
must be absolutely no mention

2877
01:50:28,550 --> 01:50:25,520
or association of my name with your work

2878
01:50:30,709 --> 01:50:28,560
or investigation i have absolutely

2879
01:50:31,750 --> 01:50:30,719
nothing to gain from such association at

2880
01:50:34,790 --> 01:50:31,760
this time

2881
01:50:37,189 --> 01:50:34,800
and possibly much to lose

2882
01:50:38,310 --> 01:50:37,199
that's right that is a holy crap moment

2883
01:50:40,070 --> 01:50:38,320
right there yeah

2884
01:50:41,510 --> 01:50:40,080
and it's like such an obviously

2885
01:50:43,189 --> 01:50:41,520
believable thing and yet there are

2886
01:50:43,990 --> 01:50:43,199
people like oh no it was a cut and paste

2887
01:50:47,350 --> 01:50:44,000
job

2888
01:50:49,510 --> 01:50:47,360
like how what a stupid joke i mean

2889
01:50:52,229 --> 01:50:49,520
honestly there's bad and then there's

2890
01:50:54,149 --> 01:50:52,239
just outright idiocy and insulting like

2891
01:50:54,550 --> 01:50:54,159
that's just the lowest level to make

2892
01:50:56,870 --> 01:50:54,560
that

2893
01:50:57,910 --> 01:50:56,880
claim which someone has done it's

2894
01:50:59,910 --> 01:50:57,920
ridiculous

2895
01:51:00,950 --> 01:50:59,920
it's not believable what did you think

2896
01:51:04,070 --> 01:51:00,960
about the part

2897
01:51:06,229 --> 01:51:04,080
this to me um what no i want your

2898
01:51:08,790 --> 01:51:06,239
opinion don't worry about mine what did

2899
01:51:12,709 --> 01:51:08,800
you think about uh will miller

2900
01:51:15,750 --> 01:51:12,719
giving uh eric davis his fee right

2901
01:51:17,750 --> 01:51:15,760
his feet oh yeah well 180 bucks an hour

2902
01:51:18,550 --> 01:51:17,760
man if you want the crash retrieval

2903
01:51:20,470 --> 01:51:18,560
goods

2904
01:51:22,550 --> 01:51:20,480
oh yeah why you know let the man try to

2905
01:51:23,910 --> 01:51:22,560
make his money what was funny is that in

2906
01:51:26,709 --> 01:51:23,920
the document

2907
01:51:28,229 --> 01:51:26,719
uh wilson got a laugh out of that like

2908
01:51:31,189 --> 01:51:28,239
davis actually

2909
01:51:32,629 --> 01:51:31,199
uh goes back and points it out yes he's

2910
01:51:34,390 --> 01:51:32,639
like yeah

2911
01:51:35,669 --> 01:51:34,400
he's not wilson's like well he's not

2912
01:51:38,709 --> 01:51:35,679
worth that much or he's

2913
01:51:41,669 --> 01:51:38,719
making some comment about it so uh

2914
01:51:42,629 --> 01:51:41,679
yeah but no it's obviously believable

2915
01:51:45,910 --> 01:51:42,639
and anyone who

2916
01:51:49,270 --> 01:51:45,920
has bothered to look at any of what i

2917
01:51:51,589 --> 01:51:49,280
like to call the bigelow crowd

2918
01:51:53,669 --> 01:51:51,599
these look and i have a i have a lot of

2919
01:51:55,750 --> 01:51:53,679
respect for these men i mean i've been

2920
01:51:56,709 --> 01:51:55,760
very on excellent terms with hal put off

2921
01:51:59,189 --> 01:51:56,719
for years

2922
01:52:00,310 --> 01:51:59,199
and i have a very ultra high regard for

2923
01:52:03,669 --> 01:52:00,320
eric davis

2924
01:52:05,109 --> 01:52:03,679
and i know kit green and you know

2925
01:52:07,669 --> 01:52:05,119
george knapp's even part of the group

2926
01:52:10,629 --> 01:52:07,679
honestly and i love george

2927
01:52:11,430 --> 01:52:10,639
um but the fact is you've got a group of

2928
01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:11,440
guys with

2929
01:52:15,669 --> 01:52:13,520
various types of clearances who are

2930
01:52:18,070 --> 01:52:15,679
obviously trying to work their way

2931
01:52:20,390 --> 01:52:18,080
into the lab it's a labyrinth they're

2932
01:52:23,030 --> 01:52:20,400
trying to get to the holy grail

2933
01:52:23,669 --> 01:52:23,040
and i don't i don't know for a fact but

2934
01:52:25,350 --> 01:52:23,679
i don't

2935
01:52:26,709 --> 01:52:25,360
think that they are where they want to

2936
01:52:30,149 --> 01:52:26,719
be

2937
01:52:31,910 --> 01:52:30,159
and so as a result they're just

2938
01:52:33,350 --> 01:52:31,920
they're working their way very carefully

2939
01:52:35,750 --> 01:52:33,360
they don't want to screw things up

2940
01:52:37,350 --> 01:52:35,760
from their point of view so where this

2941
01:52:39,669 --> 01:52:37,360
is what i think this is what i think

2942
01:52:40,390 --> 01:52:39,679
right right so where are we today where

2943
01:52:44,070 --> 01:52:40,400
are you

2944
01:52:46,070 --> 01:52:44,080
today with the document you uh uh uh put

2945
01:52:48,070 --> 01:52:46,080
a little presentation together that uh

2946
01:52:52,229 --> 01:52:48,080
came out a few days ago

2947
01:52:55,589 --> 01:52:52,239
um he did i believe your name was on it

2948
01:52:58,709 --> 01:52:55,599
davis wilson yes you are richard dolan

2949
01:53:01,109 --> 01:52:58,719
i am um i don't think i've

2950
01:53:02,310 --> 01:53:01,119
maybe someone took an older interview

2951
01:53:05,589 --> 01:53:02,320
with me and put that out

2952
01:53:08,070 --> 01:53:05,599
okay possibly but where are we today

2953
01:53:09,510 --> 01:53:08,080
uh with the document well there's still

2954
01:53:12,550 --> 01:53:09,520
work being done but

2955
01:53:15,669 --> 01:53:12,560
i mean i'm not like

2956
01:53:17,350 --> 01:53:15,679
what should be done honestly is someone

2957
01:53:18,550 --> 01:53:17,360
should write like a 300-page book that

2958
01:53:20,790 --> 01:53:18,560
breaks that whole thing down and

2959
01:53:22,310 --> 01:53:20,800
analyzes and proves it or even even like

2960
01:53:25,830 --> 01:53:22,320
200 pages like a

2961
01:53:27,270 --> 01:53:25,840
significant treatment that's what really

2962
01:53:29,750 --> 01:53:27,280
needs to be done

2963
01:53:31,030 --> 01:53:29,760
because the document's that important

2964
01:53:35,109 --> 01:53:31,040
it's that important

2965
01:53:36,149 --> 01:53:35,119
like it's it's a it's a profound

2966
01:53:39,750 --> 01:53:36,159
significance

2967
01:53:41,910 --> 01:53:39,760
if true and it is true i mean

2968
01:53:43,669 --> 01:53:41,920
think about it who's going to show me

2969
01:53:45,189 --> 01:53:43,679
this document in 2006

2970
01:53:47,109 --> 01:53:45,199
and someone very close to the whole

2971
01:53:50,390 --> 01:53:47,119
scene okay

2972
01:53:54,390 --> 01:53:50,400
shows this to me and you got mitchell

2973
01:53:57,750 --> 01:53:54,400
talking all about it for years

2974
01:53:59,510 --> 01:53:57,760
like quite explicitly frankly where is

2975
01:53:59,990 --> 01:53:59,520
this where's the fiction part come in

2976
01:54:02,790 --> 01:54:00,000
here

2977
01:54:04,470 --> 01:54:02,800
how does a fiction fictional scenario

2978
01:54:06,709 --> 01:54:04,480
even work

2979
01:54:08,470 --> 01:54:06,719
movie script or what whatever someone's

2980
01:54:11,270 --> 01:54:08,480
putting out there to

2981
01:54:12,629 --> 01:54:11,280
explain this is i mean it's beyond

2982
01:54:16,070 --> 01:54:12,639
absurd

2983
01:54:17,589 --> 01:54:16,080
people

2984
01:54:19,109 --> 01:54:17,599
okay running away from it or trying to

2985
01:54:22,149 --> 01:54:19,119
debunk it it's ridiculous

2986
01:54:25,910 --> 01:54:22,159
are there parts of this that are

2987
01:54:27,270 --> 01:54:25,920
untrue absolutely

2988
01:54:29,750 --> 01:54:27,280
you got people telling wilson there are

2989
01:54:31,830 --> 01:54:29,760
no abductions let's get real here

2990
01:54:33,270 --> 01:54:31,840
there are abductions so what you've got

2991
01:54:35,189 --> 01:54:33,280
is a situation where

2992
01:54:37,510 --> 01:54:35,199
you're not telling wilson the full truth

2993
01:54:38,870 --> 01:54:37,520
either obviously

2994
01:54:40,950 --> 01:54:38,880
obviously they're not telling them the

2995
01:54:41,830 --> 01:54:40,960
truth you got the probably the lockheed

2996
01:54:45,030 --> 01:54:41,840
guy saying yeah

2997
01:54:46,629 --> 01:54:45,040
painstakingly slow progress because you

2998
01:54:48,790 --> 01:54:46,639
know so compartment well i'm sure the

2999
01:54:50,870 --> 01:54:48,800
compartmentation doesn't help

3000
01:54:52,709 --> 01:54:50,880
but you're not going to tell me all

3001
01:54:54,310 --> 01:54:52,719
right first of all you got the arv story

3002
01:54:55,830 --> 01:54:54,320
from 1988 and i'm going to tell you

3003
01:54:56,790 --> 01:54:55,840
right now that's the real deal that

3004
01:54:58,870 --> 01:54:56,800
story

3005
01:55:01,589 --> 01:54:58,880
and i'm you know unfortunately the great

3006
01:55:03,750 --> 01:55:01,599
mark mccandless recently died

3007
01:55:05,510 --> 01:55:03,760
but that story is not done there's

3008
01:55:10,229 --> 01:55:05,520
information there

3009
01:55:12,390 --> 01:55:10,239
and you know so there have been

3010
01:55:13,510 --> 01:55:12,400
replication this is one of the things

3011
01:55:15,030 --> 01:55:13,520
i'm actually good

3012
01:55:17,350 --> 01:55:15,040
let me do this i'm plugging i've got a

3013
01:55:20,870 --> 01:55:17,360
may 20th online event and i'm talking

3014
01:55:23,830 --> 01:55:20,880
about this on my event i'm doing two

3015
01:55:24,310 --> 01:55:23,840
completely new lectures and one of them

3016
01:55:27,030 --> 01:55:24,320
is

3017
01:55:29,189 --> 01:55:27,040
talking about cr ufo crash retrievals as

3018
01:55:30,390 --> 01:55:29,199
a corporate a classified corporate gold

3019
01:55:32,070 --> 01:55:30,400
rush

3020
01:55:34,149 --> 01:55:32,080
no one's really gotten into this and i'm

3021
01:55:35,830 --> 01:55:34,159
i'm really going in

3022
01:55:37,589 --> 01:55:35,840
and i'm looking at this and i'm looking

3023
01:55:40,229 --> 01:55:37,599
at davis wilson i'm looking at

3024
01:55:40,950 --> 01:55:40,239
the arv story and a lot more and the

3025
01:55:43,750 --> 01:55:40,960
involvement of

3026
01:55:45,430 --> 01:55:43,760
organizations like lockheed and others

3027
01:55:46,390 --> 01:55:45,440
this is really important and no one's

3028
01:55:48,149 --> 01:55:46,400
really

3029
01:55:49,510 --> 01:55:48,159
unpacking this and i'm trying to i've

3030
01:55:50,149 --> 01:55:49,520
got some pretty good people helping me

3031
01:55:51,589 --> 01:55:50,159
by the way

3032
01:55:53,189 --> 01:55:51,599
and incidentally for that event i got

3033
01:55:57,109 --> 01:55:53,199
lou elizondo and

3034
01:56:00,310 --> 01:55:57,119
the four young guns i love those guys uh

3035
01:56:03,589 --> 01:56:00,320
jay over project unity james and uh

3036
01:56:04,870 --> 01:56:03,599
danny silva and joe murgia who all of

3037
01:56:07,430 --> 01:56:04,880
whom do

3038
01:56:09,189 --> 01:56:07,440
excellent work and of course lou well

3039
01:56:11,589 --> 01:56:09,199
i'm gonna really try to pin lou down

3040
01:56:12,550 --> 01:56:11,599
on crash retrievals so he should be

3041
01:56:14,310 --> 01:56:12,560
forewarned and i

3042
01:56:16,709 --> 01:56:14,320
i had some nice conversations with him

3043
01:56:19,350 --> 01:56:16,719
and i really like and respect him

3044
01:56:20,229 --> 01:56:19,360
so that's it but i it's really i'm going

3045
01:56:23,270 --> 01:56:20,239
in with some

3046
01:56:25,189 --> 01:56:23,280
very new and fresh

3047
01:56:27,270 --> 01:56:25,199
and what i think is actually powerful

3048
01:56:30,070 --> 01:56:27,280
information some of which has not

3049
01:56:30,550 --> 01:56:30,080
been out there before so my point simply

3050
01:56:33,910 --> 01:56:30,560
is

3051
01:56:34,229 --> 01:56:33,920
we've got a system of it's it should all

3052
01:56:36,070 --> 01:56:34,239
be

3053
01:56:37,750 --> 01:56:36,080
illegal it probably is illegal but

3054
01:56:39,830 --> 01:56:37,760
somehow they get away with it

3055
01:56:42,310 --> 01:56:39,840
this level of secrecy is beyond anything

3056
01:56:44,709 --> 01:56:42,320
that any reasonable person would

3057
01:56:45,830 --> 01:56:44,719
want to accept in their country and yet

3058
01:56:49,109 --> 01:56:45,840
we're stuck with it

3059
01:56:52,709 --> 01:56:49,119
and you know breaking this

3060
01:56:53,830 --> 01:56:52,719
incredibly compartmentalized system is

3061
01:56:55,430 --> 01:56:53,840
is ridiculous but

3062
01:56:57,350 --> 01:56:55,440
i was i was talking about the absurd

3063
01:56:58,310 --> 01:56:57,360
nature of like some of the lies that

3064
01:57:02,149 --> 01:56:58,320
were told

3065
01:57:03,589 --> 01:57:02,159
wilson and the absurd thing about

3066
01:57:05,910 --> 01:57:03,599
yeah we haven't been able to replicate a

3067
01:57:08,709 --> 01:57:05,920
flying saucer sure you haven't

3068
01:57:10,149 --> 01:57:08,719
sure you haven't you know absolutely

3069
01:57:12,790 --> 01:57:10,159
they have

3070
01:57:14,390 --> 01:57:12,800
but they tell this to wilson because

3071
01:57:16,149 --> 01:57:14,400
they don't they just want to get him off

3072
01:57:17,510 --> 01:57:16,159
their back

3073
01:57:19,270 --> 01:57:17,520
and the whole thing at the end of that

3074
01:57:20,709 --> 01:57:19,280
document with like there's no abductions

3075
01:57:22,470 --> 01:57:20,719
that just comes out of the blue like

3076
01:57:25,510 --> 01:57:22,480
that's just not credible

3077
01:57:27,830 --> 01:57:25,520
and what about uh there's a

3078
01:57:28,790 --> 01:57:27,840
we've only got a minute before the break

3079
01:57:30,950 --> 01:57:28,800
there was

3080
01:57:32,550 --> 01:57:30,960
something that also stood out for me and

3081
01:57:37,109 --> 01:57:32,560
that is

3082
01:57:41,270 --> 01:57:37,119
kit green and the alien autopsy

3083
01:57:44,629 --> 01:57:41,280
film still images right right and and

3084
01:57:48,790 --> 01:57:44,639
what he was seeing where it

3085
01:57:51,669 --> 01:57:48,800
what he saw um and i'm assuming

3086
01:57:51,990 --> 01:57:51,679
it was at in langley virginia i'm going

3087
01:57:53,990 --> 01:57:52,000
there

3088
01:57:55,510 --> 01:57:54,000
because i think at that time he was at

3089
01:57:59,350 --> 01:57:55,520
the weird desk

3090
01:58:02,629 --> 01:57:59,360
at uh the cia but that being said

3091
01:58:07,510 --> 01:58:02,639
he seemed to have flip-flopped on

3092
01:58:10,229 --> 01:58:07,520
the alien uh the the alien autopsy film

3093
01:58:11,910 --> 01:58:10,239
where he said no then he said yes then

3094
01:58:13,750 --> 01:58:11,920
he said no and then he came back in the

3095
01:58:17,189 --> 01:58:13,760
end saying

3096
01:58:19,750 --> 01:58:17,199
that the film is real is that somebody

3097
01:58:21,830 --> 01:58:19,760
in the end he's saying it's fake well

3098
01:58:23,109 --> 01:58:21,840
okay so i got my flip-flops backwards

3099
01:58:26,709 --> 01:58:23,119
but what i'm suggesting

3100
01:58:28,149 --> 01:58:26,719
is was that somebody messing with kit

3101
01:58:29,750 --> 01:58:28,159
all right well look i did a long

3102
01:58:31,430 --> 01:58:29,760
interview with kit green about this

3103
01:58:33,189 --> 01:58:31,440
and i it's on my website it's totally

3104
01:58:34,470 --> 01:58:33,199
free just go to richard members

3105
01:58:36,470 --> 01:58:34,480
there's members content but there's a

3106
01:58:37,589 --> 01:58:36,480
lot of free content this is a completely

3107
01:58:40,790 --> 01:58:37,599
free piece

3108
01:58:43,030 --> 01:58:40,800
just go in there search it out and

3109
01:58:43,910 --> 01:58:43,040
i did a very long interview with kid

3110
01:58:45,510 --> 01:58:43,920
green

3111
01:58:47,109 --> 01:58:45,520
and what was funny are we running out of

3112
01:58:48,470 --> 01:58:47,119
time here yeah

3113
01:58:50,870 --> 01:58:48,480
i was originally going to publish that

3114
01:58:54,109 --> 01:58:50,880
whole transcript just verbatim

3115
01:58:55,270 --> 01:58:54,119
i had the whole thing and we had

3116
01:58:58,229 --> 01:58:55,280
misunderstood

3117
01:58:59,830 --> 01:58:58,239
each other on that matter so when i told

3118
01:59:00,830 --> 01:58:59,840
him yeah i'm about to put the transcript

3119
01:59:04,550 --> 01:59:00,840
out

3120
01:59:06,870 --> 01:59:04,560
he hit the roof he's like no

3121
01:59:07,910 --> 01:59:06,880
you must not absolutely not i will not

3122
01:59:11,910 --> 01:59:07,920
authorize that

3123
01:59:16,229 --> 01:59:11,920
so i said okay so what i had to do

3124
01:59:17,750 --> 01:59:16,239
was i i did essentially a very very long

3125
01:59:20,790 --> 01:59:17,760
article on the interview with

3126
01:59:22,709 --> 01:59:20,800
with clips of the transcript

3127
01:59:24,390 --> 01:59:22,719
like i did have some of that in but

3128
01:59:25,189 --> 01:59:24,400
there were things in there that for him

3129
01:59:26,870 --> 01:59:25,199
were

3130
01:59:28,870 --> 01:59:26,880
very sensitive and he just didn't want

3131
01:59:30,310 --> 01:59:28,880
to go there so fine so i wrote i think

3132
01:59:33,430 --> 01:59:30,320
it was like an 8 000 word piece

3133
01:59:35,350 --> 01:59:33,440
very long and i i tried to do justice to

3134
01:59:38,870 --> 01:59:35,360
his position he felt that i was accurate

3135
01:59:40,310 --> 01:59:38,880
i should just say and essentially by the

3136
01:59:41,510 --> 01:59:40,320
late 90s when they're

3137
01:59:43,430 --> 01:59:41,520
we're gonna have to continue this after

3138
01:59:45,350 --> 01:59:43,440
the break i imagine but he

3139
01:59:46,470 --> 01:59:45,360
and put off and eric davis and colm

3140
01:59:47,910 --> 01:59:46,480
kelleher are

3141
01:59:50,390 --> 01:59:47,920
they're emailing each other and the

3142
01:59:52,390 --> 01:59:50,400
alien autopsy thing comes up and

3143
01:59:54,790 --> 01:59:52,400
they're all surprised because kick green

3144
01:59:57,589 --> 01:59:54,800
who's a

3145
02:00:00,070 --> 01:59:57,599
highly qualified medical professional

3146
02:00:03,830 --> 02:00:00,080
and biological professional i mean

3147
02:00:06,229 --> 02:00:03,840
beyond almost anyone he's a pathologist

3148
02:00:08,310 --> 02:00:06,239
yes but he's even more than that well

3149
02:00:10,310 --> 02:00:08,320
but my point is if he's looking at an

3150
02:00:11,990 --> 02:00:10,320
alien autopsy film if somebody's going

3151
02:00:13,030 --> 02:00:12,000
to know what's going on it's kid green

3152
02:00:14,390 --> 02:00:13,040
right you would think so

3153
02:00:16,070 --> 02:00:14,400
yeah so he's saying yeah that thing's

3154
02:00:18,310 --> 02:00:16,080
real and there

3155
02:00:19,350 --> 02:00:18,320
in the ammo thread this was the other

3156
02:00:20,390 --> 02:00:19,360
thing that leaked out of mitchell's

3157
02:00:22,070 --> 02:00:20,400
estate

3158
02:00:23,430 --> 02:00:22,080
and by the way my understanding is not a

3159
02:00:25,750 --> 02:00:23,440
whole lot else is

3160
02:00:26,950 --> 02:00:25,760
of great value of mitchells it's just

3161
02:00:28,709 --> 02:00:26,960
those two things

3162
02:00:30,229 --> 02:00:28,719
but anyway so you can see like they're

3163
02:00:31,669 --> 02:00:30,239
somewhat incredulous at first like

3164
02:00:34,390 --> 02:00:31,679
really you think that's real

3165
02:00:36,870 --> 02:00:34,400
like they and and green and that threat

3166
02:00:39,430 --> 02:00:36,880
in 97 i think that was

3167
02:00:40,470 --> 02:00:39,440
no i'm sorry 2001 i believe i'm getting

3168
02:00:43,109 --> 02:00:40,480
mixed up here

3169
02:00:43,750 --> 02:00:43,119
he's like nope it's real absolutely but

3170
02:00:46,870 --> 02:00:43,760
then

3171
02:00:49,189 --> 02:00:46,880
so i that comes out and i i called him

3172
02:00:50,550 --> 02:00:49,199
i emailed him like please you gotta tell

3173
02:00:53,510 --> 02:00:50,560
me what okay

3174
02:00:55,189 --> 02:00:53,520
let's pick this up after the break and

3175
02:00:58,550 --> 02:00:55,199
again my memory says

3176
02:01:00,390 --> 02:00:58,560
kit said well i was shown an image

3177
02:01:02,310 --> 02:01:00,400
yeah yeah that was a little more than

3178
02:01:05,990 --> 02:01:02,320
that yeah no he said i was shown an

3179
02:01:08,229 --> 02:01:06,000
image that was definitely an autopsy and

3180
02:01:09,750 --> 02:01:08,239
it was in that film

3181
02:01:11,270 --> 02:01:09,760
we'll continue all of this when we come

3182
02:01:22,790 --> 02:01:11,280
back this is fade to black our guest

3183
02:01:25,270 --> 02:01:22,800
tonight richard dolan stay with us

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[Music]

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02:05:56,870 --> 02:05:54,719
welcome back feed to black i'm here with

3289
02:05:59,430 --> 02:05:56,880
jimmy church tonight richard bleepin

3290
02:06:00,470 --> 02:05:59,440
dolan is with us another great

3291
02:06:03,750 --> 02:06:00,480
conversation

3292
02:06:06,310 --> 02:06:03,760
and uh you know what i enjoy uh most

3293
02:06:08,950 --> 02:06:06,320
about uh having richard on the show

3294
02:06:09,910 --> 02:06:08,960
it's not it's not the conversation

3295
02:06:11,910 --> 02:06:09,920
because that's

3296
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happening it's the budding of the heads

3297
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i just love

3298
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that part of it man i love that part of

3299
02:06:19,189 --> 02:06:17,440
it okay

3300
02:06:20,709 --> 02:06:19,199
so we butt our heads with each other you

3301
02:06:23,990 --> 02:06:20,719
mean yeah yeah

3302
02:06:27,189 --> 02:06:24,000
yeah yeah it's it's it's always awesome

3303
02:06:28,390 --> 02:06:27,199
and uh just like fight in the room if i

3304
02:06:29,030 --> 02:06:28,400
fight in the bedroom and throw each

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02:06:30,470 --> 02:06:29,040
other around

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02:06:32,069 --> 02:06:30,480
against the wall it's the only way to

3307
02:06:37,270 --> 02:06:32,079
move forward

3308
02:06:38,310 --> 02:06:37,280
back to kit green in in the alien

3309
02:06:40,709 --> 02:06:38,320
autopsy film

3310
02:06:43,589 --> 02:06:40,719
um and i had mentioned before the break

3311
02:06:47,109 --> 02:06:43,599
and this stood out for me in this email

3312
02:06:49,669 --> 02:06:47,119
because my issues with the alien autopsy

3313
02:06:52,390 --> 02:06:49,679
film first off i paid 75 bucks for that

3314
02:06:55,510 --> 02:06:52,400
video at tower records back in the day

3315
02:06:58,550 --> 02:06:55,520
i had to order it i had a watch party

3316
02:06:59,189 --> 02:06:58,560
and i watched the air just leave the

3317
02:07:02,470 --> 02:06:59,199
room

3318
02:07:05,430 --> 02:07:02,480
uh during that and so

3319
02:07:07,350 --> 02:07:05,440
um uh i i hold that people are making

3320
02:07:07,830 --> 02:07:07,360
this about the alien autopsy and i think

3321
02:07:09,430 --> 02:07:07,840
that's

3322
02:07:11,189 --> 02:07:09,440
actually been really wrong like some

3323
02:07:12,709 --> 02:07:11,199
people get really worked up oh they're

3324
02:07:14,470 --> 02:07:12,719
trying to validate the alien autopsy

3325
02:07:16,709 --> 02:07:14,480
video no

3326
02:07:18,310 --> 02:07:16,719
no well what's interesting is that kid

3327
02:07:21,510 --> 02:07:18,320
green stated

3328
02:07:23,750 --> 02:07:21,520
that that being whatever that was

3329
02:07:24,790 --> 02:07:23,760
looked exactly like a photograph it had

3330
02:07:28,149 --> 02:07:24,800
been shown

3331
02:07:30,790 --> 02:07:28,159
at a classified in a skip sensitive

3332
02:07:33,750 --> 02:07:30,800
compartment and information facility

3333
02:07:36,390 --> 02:07:33,760
in 1987 or 88 he's shown he said this

3334
02:07:38,870 --> 02:07:36,400
looked exactly like what i was shown

3335
02:07:40,550 --> 02:07:38,880
which is which is interesting and which

3336
02:07:43,189 --> 02:07:40,560
is back to my point

3337
02:07:44,069 --> 02:07:43,199
uh that i was talking about before the

3338
02:07:47,589 --> 02:07:44,079
break which was

3339
02:07:49,189 --> 02:07:47,599
he was basing all of this on this image

3340
02:07:52,390 --> 02:07:49,199
that he was shown in this private

3341
02:07:53,109 --> 02:07:52,400
meeting and but i and i'm reading the

3342
02:07:56,069 --> 02:07:53,119
email

3343
02:07:57,109 --> 02:07:56,079
and i'm thinking kid cream has got to

3344
02:07:59,669 --> 02:07:57,119
know

3345
02:08:00,950 --> 02:07:59,679
that that film is bogus is he saying the

3346
02:08:04,790 --> 02:08:00,960
film is real

3347
02:08:07,510 --> 02:08:04,800
where's but kid's got he's got to know

3348
02:08:08,629 --> 02:08:07,520
the other thing was it was it was hard

3349
02:08:10,950 --> 02:08:08,639
for me to get

3350
02:08:12,229 --> 02:08:10,960
all of this nailed down but it was what

3351
02:08:14,390 --> 02:08:12,239
came out

3352
02:08:15,990 --> 02:08:14,400
and by the way this is i just found this

3353
02:08:17,910 --> 02:08:16,000
on my website this is

3354
02:08:19,350 --> 02:08:17,920
absolutely completely available for

3355
02:08:22,069 --> 02:08:19,360
anyone and the

3356
02:08:23,270 --> 02:08:22,079
article is just called uh dr kid green

3357
02:08:26,950 --> 02:08:23,280
on the record

3358
02:08:29,750 --> 02:08:26,960
and i posted this on august 24 2019 so

3359
02:08:31,030 --> 02:08:29,760
this is in the very early aftermath of

3360
02:08:32,709 --> 02:08:31,040
davis wilson

3361
02:08:33,990 --> 02:08:32,719
and the alien all the stuff that leaked

3362
02:08:35,589 --> 02:08:34,000
out those two things that leaked out

3363
02:08:38,069 --> 02:08:35,599
when edgar mitchell's

3364
02:08:40,629 --> 02:08:38,079
after mitchell had died um these are the

3365
02:08:41,990 --> 02:08:40,639
two big things that came out

3366
02:08:44,069 --> 02:08:42,000
and then there were people saying that

3367
02:08:45,510 --> 02:08:44,079
the alien autopsy thing was fake too

3368
02:08:47,510 --> 02:08:45,520
that the email thread

3369
02:08:48,709 --> 02:08:47,520
was fake it was the first question i

3370
02:08:51,030 --> 02:08:48,719
asked kid green is like no

3371
02:08:52,229 --> 02:08:51,040
it's not fake it's totally legit people

3372
02:08:53,030 --> 02:08:52,239
are complaining about the email

3373
02:08:55,910 --> 02:08:53,040
addresses

3374
02:08:57,109 --> 02:08:55,920
there's totally legit reasons for those

3375
02:08:59,510 --> 02:08:57,119
email addresses

3376
02:09:01,350 --> 02:08:59,520
and i wish i had that at the tip of my

3377
02:09:03,189 --> 02:09:01,360
knowledge right now but

3378
02:09:05,510 --> 02:09:03,199
all of this is totally explainable i

3379
02:09:07,350 --> 02:09:05,520
asked kate green where these

3380
02:09:09,589 --> 02:09:07,360
you know he absolutely remembered the

3381
02:09:12,870 --> 02:09:09,599
entire email exchange

3382
02:09:16,790 --> 02:09:12,880
the whole thing is obviously real anyway

3383
02:09:18,629 --> 02:09:16,800
he stated that he

3384
02:09:21,189 --> 02:09:18,639
like he basically had this dangling

3385
02:09:23,430 --> 02:09:21,199
carrot thrown in front of him for years

3386
02:09:25,030 --> 02:09:23,440
and the dangling carrot was we're gonna

3387
02:09:28,950 --> 02:09:25,040
let you into the

3388
02:09:30,709 --> 02:09:28,960
major ufo uh

3389
02:09:32,550 --> 02:09:30,719
organization where you're gonna we need

3390
02:09:34,149 --> 02:09:32,560
we need your skills

3391
02:09:36,069 --> 02:09:34,159
because you're very skilled in

3392
02:09:39,030 --> 02:09:36,079
biological sciences and so forth

3393
02:09:39,669 --> 02:09:39,040
and we're going to bring you in and so

3394
02:09:42,709 --> 02:09:39,679
this

3395
02:09:45,350 --> 02:09:42,719
seemed to be the thing for him

3396
02:09:46,229 --> 02:09:45,360
and and in the late 80s when he's

3397
02:09:48,390 --> 02:09:46,239
brought in this was

3398
02:09:50,390 --> 02:09:48,400
that this was the second time he had an

3399
02:09:52,470 --> 02:09:50,400
earlier briefing i think in

3400
02:09:54,470 --> 02:09:52,480
it should be there 1980 or 81 the early

3401
02:09:57,830 --> 02:09:54,480
80s and then he gets this other one

3402
02:09:59,189 --> 02:09:57,840
but he ended up believing that this was

3403
02:10:01,270 --> 02:09:59,199
just

3404
02:10:02,229 --> 02:10:01,280
either a psych job on him or some kind

3405
02:10:04,709 --> 02:10:02,239
of disinfo

3406
02:10:06,470 --> 02:10:04,719
or i'm not sure if even said this

3407
02:10:08,149 --> 02:10:06,480
explicitly to me or they just may have

3408
02:10:10,069 --> 02:10:08,159
rejected him

3409
02:10:11,990 --> 02:10:10,079
like they may have brought him in enough

3410
02:10:13,830 --> 02:10:12,000
and thought no we don't really

3411
02:10:15,830 --> 02:10:13,840
want him in i mean maybe he had a higher

3412
02:10:17,750 --> 02:10:15,840
public public profile i mean people knew

3413
02:10:20,149 --> 02:10:17,760
him to robert bigelow

3414
02:10:22,790 --> 02:10:20,159
um it's not like he was going out of his

3415
02:10:25,669 --> 02:10:22,800
way to be a public person but he did

3416
02:10:27,510 --> 02:10:25,679
you know he was listed in the book uh

3417
02:10:29,510 --> 02:10:27,520
the jim schnabel book on

3418
02:10:30,790 --> 02:10:29,520
remote viewing when did that come out

3419
02:10:34,069 --> 02:10:30,800
night late 90s

3420
02:10:35,990 --> 02:10:34,079
like he was somewhat somewhat known

3421
02:10:38,229 --> 02:10:36,000
and i'm just speculating here but anyway

3422
02:10:40,149 --> 02:10:38,239
he gets

3423
02:10:41,030 --> 02:10:40,159
this dangling little thing like we're

3424
02:10:42,310 --> 02:10:41,040
going to bring you in we're going to

3425
02:10:44,149 --> 02:10:42,320
bring you in and

3426
02:10:45,910 --> 02:10:44,159
so they they bring him in in the late

3427
02:10:47,830 --> 02:10:45,920
80s they show apparently he says they

3428
02:10:51,430 --> 02:10:47,840
showed him a photograph that looked like

3429
02:10:53,109 --> 02:10:51,440
an alien and but i don't think that

3430
02:10:55,430 --> 02:10:53,119
there was any kind of explanation of

3431
02:10:58,470 --> 02:10:55,440
this whatsoever

3432
02:10:59,109 --> 02:10:58,480
and and so he's you know you can imagine

3433
02:11:01,430 --> 02:10:59,119
like

3434
02:11:03,589 --> 02:11:01,440
the impact that would have on anybody

3435
02:11:06,229 --> 02:11:03,599
like to be brought in that type of facil

3436
02:11:08,149 --> 02:11:06,239
facility is very significant he goes in

3437
02:11:09,430 --> 02:11:08,159
there's all of this

3438
02:11:12,310 --> 02:11:09,440
protocol you have to follow and then

3439
02:11:15,430 --> 02:11:12,320
you're brought in and

3440
02:11:18,629 --> 02:11:15,440
he's shown this and then years now go by

3441
02:11:20,149 --> 02:11:18,639
but it obviously had an impact on him so

3442
02:11:21,990 --> 02:11:20,159
all he was really saying is that the

3443
02:11:24,870 --> 02:11:22,000
being apparently

3444
02:11:26,229 --> 02:11:24,880
in the santilli this is interesting too

3445
02:11:27,830 --> 02:11:26,239
honestly

3446
02:11:29,990 --> 02:11:27,840
santilli's faking this i mean no one's

3447
02:11:32,069 --> 02:11:30,000
really thinking okay this is real but

3448
02:11:33,350 --> 02:11:32,079
how the hell did that happen what does

3449
02:11:35,750 --> 02:11:33,360
that all mean

3450
02:11:38,390 --> 02:11:35,760
unanswered questions here but anyway

3451
02:11:41,430 --> 02:11:38,400
green sees that and he's thinking

3452
02:11:43,270 --> 02:11:41,440
wow that looks just like what i saw so

3453
02:11:44,709 --> 02:11:43,280
the real question we want to ask is

3454
02:11:47,510 --> 02:11:44,719
what the hell happened to kid green in

3455
02:11:49,030 --> 02:11:47,520
the 1980s there what was that all about

3456
02:11:51,589 --> 02:11:49,040
well so he ended up well i'll just

3457
02:11:54,709 --> 02:11:51,599
finish this he ended up believing

3458
02:11:56,229 --> 02:11:54,719
that that this was some kind of

3459
02:11:58,550 --> 02:11:56,239
like head fake that they were doing to

3460
02:11:59,589 --> 02:11:58,560
him like he actually believed that they

3461
02:12:02,310 --> 02:11:59,599
were lying to him

3462
02:12:03,350 --> 02:12:02,320
this is what he said to me anyway i mean

3463
02:12:05,270 --> 02:12:03,360
honestly

3464
02:12:07,109 --> 02:12:05,280
i can't crawl inside that man's head

3465
02:12:07,910 --> 02:12:07,119
he's a brilliant individual and i really

3466
02:12:10,229 --> 02:12:07,920
like him

3467
02:12:11,669 --> 02:12:10,239
but i don't know what like is that

3468
02:12:12,870 --> 02:12:11,679
actually what he really believes or is

3469
02:12:16,790 --> 02:12:12,880
he just trying to

3470
02:12:18,550 --> 02:12:16,800
you know preserve uh

3471
02:12:20,069 --> 02:12:18,560
preserve himself from from people

3472
02:12:21,109 --> 02:12:20,079
thinking yeah i actually believe the

3473
02:12:22,470 --> 02:12:21,119
santelli film

3474
02:12:24,550 --> 02:12:22,480
or whatever i don't know what he's

3475
02:12:27,350 --> 02:12:24,560
what's going through his mind

3476
02:12:29,350 --> 02:12:27,360
but he stated to me that he believed

3477
02:12:30,790 --> 02:12:29,360
that this was a disinformation campaign

3478
02:12:32,629 --> 02:12:30,800
against him

3479
02:12:34,149 --> 02:12:32,639
now and implying that there was a lot of

3480
02:12:34,709 --> 02:12:34,159
corporate power behind a lot of this

3481
02:12:39,030 --> 02:12:34,719
stuff

3482
02:12:42,390 --> 02:12:39,040
did you ask him uh directly

3483
02:12:44,950 --> 02:12:42,400
because it's implied in the email

3484
02:12:46,390 --> 02:12:44,960
even though it doesn't clarify this

3485
02:12:48,470 --> 02:12:46,400
completely

3486
02:12:49,750 --> 02:12:48,480
but did you ask him that the photograph

3487
02:12:52,950 --> 02:12:49,760
that he was shown

3488
02:12:57,270 --> 02:12:52,960
in that briefing that it was

3489
02:13:01,030 --> 02:12:57,280
of an alien autopsy and that the way it

3490
02:13:03,669 --> 02:13:01,040
was represented in the santilli film

3491
02:13:04,950 --> 02:13:03,679
that it was the same i understand the

3492
02:13:08,709 --> 02:13:04,960
alien part but that the

3493
02:13:10,870 --> 02:13:08,719
autopsy itself was the same

3494
02:13:12,790 --> 02:13:10,880
thing that he saw in the photograph or

3495
02:13:13,430 --> 02:13:12,800
we just talking about the alien being

3496
02:13:15,589 --> 02:13:13,440
itself

3497
02:13:17,189 --> 02:13:15,599
i have i have his direct quote here okay

3498
02:13:18,149 --> 02:13:17,199
let's go and i'm glad that i have us in

3499
02:13:19,189 --> 02:13:18,159
front of me because i would not have

3500
02:13:22,470 --> 02:13:19,199
remembered this

3501
02:13:25,189 --> 02:13:22,480
well at all so he says

3502
02:13:25,750 --> 02:13:25,199
several this is him several let me

3503
02:13:27,910 --> 02:13:25,760
repeat

3504
02:13:29,270 --> 02:13:27,920
several shots from the pictures i was

3505
02:13:30,870 --> 02:13:29,280
shown some pictures there's more than

3506
02:13:33,589 --> 02:13:30,880
one he was shown

3507
02:13:35,350 --> 02:13:33,599
then later appeared in the grainy

3508
02:13:38,550 --> 02:13:35,360
santilli film

3509
02:13:39,270 --> 02:13:38,560
not the body i never said it was the

3510
02:13:42,870 --> 02:13:39,280
body

3511
02:13:46,229 --> 02:13:42,880
it was the face still it was the shot of

3512
02:13:49,189 --> 02:13:46,239
the subject it was the shot of the wall

3513
02:13:50,629 --> 02:13:49,199
it was the shot of the table it was the

3514
02:13:53,669 --> 02:13:50,639
shot of a part of a

3515
02:13:55,430 --> 02:13:53,679
foot it was not the shot that i could

3516
02:13:57,750 --> 02:13:55,440
say was the same body

3517
02:13:58,709 --> 02:13:57,760
so he was really qualifying the body

3518
02:14:01,750 --> 02:13:58,719
itself but

3519
02:14:04,229 --> 02:14:01,760
the head face other

3520
02:14:05,189 --> 02:14:04,239
other elements the feet to answer your

3521
02:14:08,229 --> 02:14:05,199
question like

3522
02:14:10,229 --> 02:14:08,239
no i don't really think he made that

3523
02:14:12,790 --> 02:14:10,239
crystal clear to me like what the exact

3524
02:14:16,709 --> 02:14:12,800
context of those images were

3525
02:14:19,830 --> 02:14:16,719
except he does say table and and wall

3526
02:14:22,709 --> 02:14:19,840
that's right very interesting

3527
02:14:23,270 --> 02:14:22,719
very interesting so so was was there a

3528
02:14:26,069 --> 02:14:23,280
fake

3529
02:14:27,189 --> 02:14:26,079
set that santilla used that existed 10

3530
02:14:28,870 --> 02:14:27,199
years prior

3531
02:14:31,430 --> 02:14:28,880
because that's actually what he's saying

3532
02:14:34,910 --> 02:14:31,440
here 1987.

3533
02:14:38,830 --> 02:14:34,920
and santilla came out

3534
02:14:41,830 --> 02:14:38,840
95 95 yeah 95.

3535
02:14:45,750 --> 02:14:41,840
um and that in the

3536
02:14:48,470 --> 02:14:45,760
end of that email is where

3537
02:14:49,910 --> 02:14:48,480
uh kick green clarifies because i forget

3538
02:14:52,229 --> 02:14:49,920
who asked him

3539
02:14:53,990 --> 02:14:52,239
but somebody says so what is the

3540
02:14:56,069 --> 02:14:54,000
santilli film real do you believe

3541
02:14:58,310 --> 02:14:56,079
that the santilli film is real i believe

3542
02:15:00,390 --> 02:14:58,320
that's the i'm paraphrasing

3543
02:15:01,830 --> 02:15:00,400
what's that yeah in the email thread

3544
02:15:02,550 --> 02:15:01,840
that he's been asked that he was asked

3545
02:15:05,750 --> 02:15:02,560
that several times

3546
02:15:07,830 --> 02:15:05,760
and answered i told you already

3547
02:15:09,510 --> 02:15:07,840
he was getting really snippy with his

3548
02:15:12,629 --> 02:15:09,520
with his buddies there

3549
02:15:14,470 --> 02:15:12,639
he's he's a bit imperious at times i

3550
02:15:16,390 --> 02:15:14,480
think that's fair to say

3551
02:15:17,750 --> 02:15:16,400
you know he's a brilliant man and he

3552
02:15:20,790 --> 02:15:17,760
sometimes can let you know that

3553
02:15:22,550 --> 02:15:20,800
well because they were like come on kit

3554
02:15:23,830 --> 02:15:22,560
are you saying that the film is

3555
02:15:25,350 --> 02:15:23,840
authentic

3556
02:15:28,310 --> 02:15:25,360
you know and that just kept coming at

3557
02:15:30,550 --> 02:15:28,320
him and here it is he writes in all caps

3558
02:15:32,629 --> 02:15:30,560
yes this is the email thing asked and

3559
02:15:34,149 --> 02:15:32,639
answered what can be more direct than

3560
02:15:37,430 --> 02:15:34,159
the video is real

3561
02:15:38,870 --> 02:15:37,440
okay all caps so

3562
02:15:41,030 --> 02:15:38,880
he was pretty pretty straightforward in

3563
02:15:44,870 --> 02:15:41,040
the email thread there's no

3564
02:15:46,069 --> 02:15:44,880
getting around that um when we go back

3565
02:15:49,189 --> 02:15:46,079
the other thing is the other thing

3566
02:15:51,510 --> 02:15:49,199
i'm sorry just he had actually said

3567
02:15:53,350 --> 02:15:51,520
over the years while he's living in the

3568
02:15:57,750 --> 02:15:53,360
detroit area

3569
02:16:03,510 --> 02:16:01,350
alien evidence of various sorts in the

3570
02:16:05,270 --> 02:16:03,520
form of film or in the form of

3571
02:16:07,510 --> 02:16:05,280
autopsy records in form of different

3572
02:16:10,950 --> 02:16:07,520
types of things would arrive at his

3573
02:16:12,390 --> 02:16:10,960
home's doorstep at his house

3574
02:16:14,470 --> 02:16:12,400
and it was like really freaking him out

3575
02:16:15,270 --> 02:16:14,480
like he's thinking what the hell is

3576
02:16:18,550 --> 02:16:15,280
happening here

3577
02:16:20,629 --> 02:16:18,560
why am i getting all of this and he had

3578
02:16:22,229 --> 02:16:20,639
some very like prestigious colleagues

3579
02:16:24,470 --> 02:16:22,239
look over some of these things

3580
02:16:25,830 --> 02:16:24,480
and he said their conclusion was that

3581
02:16:27,910 --> 02:16:25,840
this is a

3582
02:16:29,189 --> 02:16:27,920
highly sophisticated disinformation

3583
02:16:32,790 --> 02:16:29,199
thing very

3584
02:16:36,549 --> 02:16:32,800
ultra sophisticated using the leading

3585
02:16:38,230 --> 02:16:36,559
scientific you know things that we know

3586
02:16:39,589 --> 02:16:38,240
in certain areas of biology and so forth

3587
02:16:42,629 --> 02:16:39,599
like

3588
02:16:44,469 --> 02:16:42,639
i mean so kit concluded

3589
02:16:46,230 --> 02:16:44,479
and this is actually all in my article

3590
02:16:48,870 --> 02:16:46,240
and i would encourage people

3591
02:16:50,309 --> 02:16:48,880
it's right there you can just read it um

3592
02:16:52,309 --> 02:16:50,319
kid green on the record

3593
02:16:54,790 --> 02:16:52,319
but he concluded that this was actually

3594
02:16:57,830 --> 02:16:54,800
a corporate

3595
02:17:00,150 --> 02:16:57,840
a significantly sophisticated corporate

3596
02:17:01,429 --> 02:17:00,160
disinformation program and i asked him i

3597
02:17:03,669 --> 02:17:01,439
said why

3598
02:17:05,110 --> 02:17:03,679
why is a corporation gonna be trying to

3599
02:17:06,549 --> 02:17:05,120
mess with you here make you think that

3600
02:17:08,950 --> 02:17:06,559
this is real

3601
02:17:10,709 --> 02:17:08,960
and i'll be honest i don't really think

3602
02:17:12,629 --> 02:17:10,719
that i got a great answer

3603
02:17:14,309 --> 02:17:12,639
i don't think he had a great answer at

3604
02:17:15,669 --> 02:17:14,319
least not for me

3605
02:17:17,870 --> 02:17:15,679
there were a number of things that i

3606
02:17:20,790 --> 02:17:17,880
just i i felt

3607
02:17:22,790 --> 02:17:20,800
unsatisfied with how he explained some

3608
02:17:25,110 --> 02:17:22,800
of these things

3609
02:17:26,469 --> 02:17:25,120
um i think that do you think that

3610
02:17:29,589 --> 02:17:26,479
richard do you think that

3611
02:17:33,270 --> 02:17:29,599
that would be because

3612
02:17:35,030 --> 02:17:33,280
he doesn't know not necessarily that

3613
02:17:38,230 --> 02:17:35,040
he's hiding something

3614
02:17:39,990 --> 02:17:38,240
but maybe he just doesn't know oh no

3615
02:17:41,669 --> 02:17:40,000
absolutely i think he doesn't there's

3616
02:17:45,030 --> 02:17:41,679
things he does not know right

3617
02:17:49,270 --> 02:17:45,040
right is it is it safe to say that

3618
02:17:50,629 --> 02:17:49,280
if somebody if we know somebody's name

3619
02:17:52,469 --> 02:17:50,639
right if we know somebody's name

3620
02:17:56,709 --> 02:17:52,479
somebody's spoken public we

3621
02:17:59,110 --> 02:17:56,719
know somebody's name then they probably

3622
02:18:01,509 --> 02:17:59,120
don't know

3623
02:18:02,629 --> 02:18:01,519
yeah you know what i mean yes yes yes

3624
02:18:05,349 --> 02:18:02,639
probably right

3625
02:18:06,070 --> 02:18:05,359
like in the case of of dr greene and al

3626
02:18:09,589 --> 02:18:06,080
pudov

3627
02:18:10,469 --> 02:18:09,599
and eric davis like it's very obvious i

3628
02:18:12,230 --> 02:18:10,479
think to anyone who

3629
02:18:15,190 --> 02:18:12,240
sees these guys that they they know

3630
02:18:18,230 --> 02:18:15,200
things like they do know things

3631
02:18:19,990 --> 02:18:18,240
but the thing is do they know everything

3632
02:18:21,669 --> 02:18:20,000
and it's very possible that there's no

3633
02:18:23,589 --> 02:18:21,679
one who really knows everything anyway

3634
02:18:26,790 --> 02:18:23,599
but i i think even in the context

3635
02:18:29,270 --> 02:18:26,800
of what can be known by human operators

3636
02:18:30,549 --> 02:18:29,280
uh my suspicion is that they don't know

3637
02:18:33,509 --> 02:18:30,559
everything that

3638
02:18:34,870 --> 02:18:33,519
some people know that they would i think

3639
02:18:36,629 --> 02:18:34,880
they would like to know

3640
02:18:38,790 --> 02:18:36,639
but i don't i don't think that they do

3641
02:18:41,669 --> 02:18:38,800
personally i think that they want to

3642
02:18:42,870 --> 02:18:41,679
yeah i think it's been a big mission but

3643
02:18:45,910 --> 02:18:42,880
so

3644
02:18:46,469 --> 02:18:45,920
the and this is what we can extrapolate

3645
02:18:50,709 --> 02:18:46,479
from that

3646
02:18:53,429 --> 02:18:50,719
which is this those that are in the know

3647
02:18:54,629 --> 02:18:53,439
we do not know their names right

3648
02:18:57,990 --> 02:18:54,639
therefore

3649
02:19:01,509 --> 02:18:58,000
right we don't know their names

3650
02:19:02,230 --> 02:19:01,519
that seems absolutely that makes perfect

3651
02:19:05,270 --> 02:19:02,240
sense

3652
02:19:09,669 --> 02:19:08,790
um as as this moves along and we've got

3653
02:19:11,190 --> 02:19:09,679
that i want

3654
02:19:12,709 --> 02:19:11,200
you know what richard what do you have

3655
02:19:14,549 --> 02:19:12,719
to do tomorrow we didn't talk about the

3656
02:19:17,990 --> 02:19:14,559
ua ptf

3657
02:19:18,549 --> 02:19:18,000
and uh well you know i try to get up

3658
02:19:20,950 --> 02:19:18,559
early and

3659
02:19:22,629 --> 02:19:20,960
get my work done and you know and and

3660
02:19:25,830 --> 02:19:22,639
this and that and so forth

3661
02:19:27,509 --> 02:19:25,840
etc okay so it's 12 17

3662
02:19:29,190 --> 02:19:27,519
eastern time here were you going to get

3663
02:19:32,230 --> 02:19:29,200
me out at 12 30 is that

3664
02:19:34,950 --> 02:19:32,240
i don't know now i don't know now um

3665
02:19:35,349 --> 02:19:34,960
i'm having a good time yeah yeah so am i

3666
02:19:37,110 --> 02:19:35,359
um

3667
02:19:38,389 --> 02:19:37,120
he's always happy like i always say to

3668
02:19:40,950 --> 02:19:38,399
you i'm gonna be out by

3669
02:19:41,669 --> 02:19:40,960
such and such time and i never do that

3670
02:19:45,270 --> 02:19:41,679
how long

3671
02:19:48,389 --> 02:19:45,280
church 60 minutes dude not 61.

3672
02:19:50,550 --> 02:19:48,399
i promise

3673
02:19:51,750 --> 02:19:50,560
two and a half hours later another i'll

3674
02:19:55,990 --> 02:19:51,760
do another segment after this

3675
02:19:59,190 --> 02:19:56,000
okay um uh if you want me

3676
02:20:02,469 --> 02:19:59,200
which is this though um where

3677
02:20:05,190 --> 02:20:02,479
we and it frustrates me

3678
02:20:05,990 --> 02:20:05,200
is that when people say this is

3679
02:20:07,830 --> 02:20:06,000
definitive

3680
02:20:09,750 --> 02:20:07,840
when we're talking about the ufo subject

3681
02:20:12,630 --> 02:20:09,760
and this is definitive and this is

3682
02:20:13,270 --> 02:20:12,640
i know i know somebody i i've been told

3683
02:20:15,910 --> 02:20:13,280
this

3684
02:20:17,670 --> 02:20:15,920
that's when i pump the brakes do you do

3685
02:20:20,230 --> 02:20:17,680
the same thing do you pump the brakes

3686
02:20:21,910 --> 02:20:20,240
when somebody says this is the way it is

3687
02:20:23,429 --> 02:20:21,920
i usually check out of the conversation

3688
02:20:23,670 --> 02:20:23,439
and i just roll my eyes and i walk away

3689
02:20:41,830 --> 02:20:23,680
i

3690
02:20:44,150 --> 02:20:41,840
says

3691
02:20:45,590 --> 02:20:44,160
okay let me tell you how this is all

3692
02:20:47,030 --> 02:20:45,600
happening i just

3693
02:20:49,590 --> 02:20:47,040
that's a really quick way to lose my

3694
02:20:52,790 --> 02:20:49,600
attention i just don't have the interest

3695
02:20:54,150 --> 02:20:52,800
and and too many i want to compare today

3696
02:20:54,790 --> 02:20:54,160
we're going to come back after the break

3697
02:20:58,070 --> 02:20:54,800
and

3698
02:21:01,349 --> 02:20:58,080
which

3699
02:21:03,349 --> 02:21:01,359
is an extraordinary moment for all of us

3700
02:21:05,110 --> 02:21:03,359
um but i want to back up for a second if

3701
02:21:08,790 --> 02:21:05,120
we go back to

3702
02:21:10,710 --> 02:21:08,800
1995 1996 1997

3703
02:21:12,790 --> 02:21:10,720
with everything that was happening at

3704
02:21:15,990 --> 02:21:12,800
that time it was a series of

3705
02:21:17,830 --> 02:21:16,000
revelations you had stanton friedman

3706
02:21:19,750 --> 02:21:17,840
and roswell and everything that was

3707
02:21:21,190 --> 02:21:19,760
exploding in 1990

3708
02:21:23,510 --> 02:21:21,200
and the newness yeah lawrence

3709
02:21:27,429 --> 02:21:23,520
rockefeller was making waves

3710
02:21:30,950 --> 02:21:27,439
all of that rolling over to bob lazar

3711
02:21:33,270 --> 02:21:30,960
rolling over to majestic mj12

3712
02:21:34,389 --> 02:21:33,280
the documents once again with uh stanton

3713
02:21:36,950 --> 02:21:34,399
friedman

3714
02:21:38,830 --> 02:21:36,960
these were revolutionary moments for the

3715
02:21:41,590 --> 02:21:38,840
community where we were like

3716
02:21:44,870 --> 02:21:41,600
ah-ha this is just that we

3717
02:21:47,750 --> 02:21:44,880
are at that moment and it was huge

3718
02:21:48,389 --> 02:21:47,760
these were momentous things that

3719
02:21:51,510 --> 02:21:48,399
happened

3720
02:21:52,830 --> 02:21:51,520
one after another are we at that same

3721
02:21:55,830 --> 02:21:52,840
point today do you

3722
02:21:58,230 --> 02:21:55,840
feel you know the same

3723
02:21:59,510 --> 02:21:58,240
pressure the same excitement that's

3724
02:22:01,990 --> 02:21:59,520
interesting question

3725
02:22:04,630 --> 02:22:02,000
well when you're comparing with the 90s

3726
02:22:08,230 --> 02:22:04,640
actually i mean the mj-12 documents

3727
02:22:10,950 --> 02:22:08,240
leaked in 1987 but you know they

3728
02:22:13,510 --> 02:22:10,960
re reverberated for many years and then

3729
02:22:15,510 --> 02:22:13,520
you got the whole roswell story that

3730
02:22:17,750 --> 02:22:15,520
was on a slow build in the 80s but

3731
02:22:19,349 --> 02:22:17,760
really didn't explode until the 90s

3732
02:22:20,389 --> 02:22:19,359
honestly especially in the in the

3733
02:22:23,349 --> 02:22:20,399
culture

3734
02:22:24,710 --> 02:22:23,359
so all of those things though were you

3735
02:22:27,990 --> 02:22:24,720
could say they were like leaks

3736
02:22:29,190 --> 02:22:28,000
or they were unofficially

3737
02:22:31,110 --> 02:22:29,200
released and they weren't they weren't

3738
02:22:32,950 --> 02:22:31,120
officially sanctioned

3739
02:22:34,630 --> 02:22:32,960
so that that's the difference then with

3740
02:22:37,670 --> 02:22:34,640
what we have now

3741
02:22:39,429 --> 02:22:37,680
so what we had then were you know and

3742
02:22:41,190 --> 02:22:39,439
then and then lazar was another one

3743
02:22:42,469 --> 02:22:41,200
lazarus coming out with like these

3744
02:22:44,230 --> 02:22:42,479
amazing

3745
02:22:46,790 --> 02:22:44,240
claims that are coming that george knapp

3746
02:22:50,150 --> 02:22:46,800
is reporting on so all of those things

3747
02:22:53,750 --> 02:22:50,160
uh gave the impression that the secret

3748
02:22:56,790 --> 02:22:53,760
had actually broken free of the control

3749
02:22:59,030 --> 02:22:56,800
of the power establishment

3750
02:23:00,389 --> 02:22:59,040
and that they just like it just slipped

3751
02:23:01,510 --> 02:23:00,399
out of their hands and now we've got the

3752
02:23:04,309 --> 02:23:01,520
ball and we're running with it

3753
02:23:05,270 --> 02:23:04,319
that was the feeling so what's a little

3754
02:23:09,030 --> 02:23:05,280
different here

3755
02:23:10,070 --> 02:23:09,040
is you know it just feels a little

3756
02:23:12,870 --> 02:23:10,080
different

3757
02:23:14,309 --> 02:23:12,880
there are leaks i mean we just talked

3758
02:23:16,550 --> 02:23:14,319
about wilson davis

3759
02:23:18,870 --> 02:23:16,560
like that is a significant document and

3760
02:23:19,190 --> 02:23:18,880
yet you've got the most of the community

3761
02:23:21,349 --> 02:23:19,200
just

3762
02:23:22,950 --> 02:23:21,359
running away you know sticking their

3763
02:23:23,670 --> 02:23:22,960
head in the sand just afraid to talk

3764
02:23:25,030 --> 02:23:23,680
about it

3765
02:23:27,590 --> 02:23:25,040
i mean they're they're literally afraid

3766
02:23:30,830 --> 02:23:27,600
the people who are close to

3767
02:23:32,150 --> 02:23:30,840
to uh davis and put off and those guys i

3768
02:23:35,030 --> 02:23:32,160
mean

3769
02:23:35,750 --> 02:23:35,040
like george knapp like even george knapp

3770
02:23:37,670 --> 02:23:35,760
by the way

3771
02:23:39,270 --> 02:23:37,680
essentially stated that he believed that

3772
02:23:41,510 --> 02:23:39,280
that document was real

3773
02:23:42,790 --> 02:23:41,520
you know but people are being very like

3774
02:23:44,950 --> 02:23:42,800
delicate

3775
02:23:46,469 --> 02:23:44,960
about how they're saying because they

3776
02:23:47,750 --> 02:23:46,479
don't want to get those guys in trouble

3777
02:23:50,389 --> 02:23:47,760
and then you just have the rest of the

3778
02:23:52,630 --> 02:23:50,399
people who don't care

3779
02:23:53,510 --> 02:23:52,640
just i don't know they're just out to

3780
02:23:56,389 --> 02:23:53,520
lunch on this

3781
02:23:58,790 --> 02:23:56,399
so we do have like a leak that's

3782
02:24:01,670 --> 02:23:58,800
comparable in a way to what happened

3783
02:24:04,309 --> 02:24:01,680
30 whatever years ago but i think it's

3784
02:24:05,990 --> 02:24:04,319
different now like

3785
02:24:07,830 --> 02:24:06,000
i i think what's happening is something

3786
02:24:09,349 --> 02:24:07,840
honestly i was i was seeing this a

3787
02:24:13,270 --> 02:24:09,359
decade or more ago

3788
02:24:14,389 --> 02:24:13,280
which was that the pressure from below

3789
02:24:17,030 --> 02:24:14,399
in our society

3790
02:24:18,230 --> 02:24:17,040
is it actually has bubbled up enough

3791
02:24:21,110 --> 02:24:18,240
that it's

3792
02:24:23,510 --> 02:24:21,120
causing it's causing a problem with the

3793
02:24:26,469 --> 02:24:23,520
traditional cover-up as it existed

3794
02:24:28,070 --> 02:24:26,479
i mean you can you could see i mean even

3795
02:24:31,349 --> 02:24:28,080
to the stars academy there

3796
02:24:34,550 --> 02:24:31,359
they are in a sense

3797
02:24:37,190 --> 02:24:34,560
uh one outgrowth and one expression

3798
02:24:37,990 --> 02:24:37,200
of the societal changes that we've been

3799
02:24:39,830 --> 02:24:38,000
seeing with

3800
02:24:41,190 --> 02:24:39,840
internet with connectivity with more

3801
02:24:43,270 --> 02:24:41,200
information coming out

3802
02:24:44,230 --> 02:24:43,280
with the fact that because of 20 plus

3803
02:24:47,670 --> 02:24:44,240
years of the web

3804
02:24:50,469 --> 02:24:47,680
the entire world has become

3805
02:24:51,190 --> 02:24:50,479
sort of had the ufo subject thrown in

3806
02:24:53,750 --> 02:24:51,200
front of them that

3807
02:24:55,190 --> 02:24:53,760
wasn't the case in the past so the

3808
02:24:58,309 --> 02:24:55,200
culture's changing

3809
02:24:59,110 --> 02:24:58,319
and i think it it was inevitable frankly

3810
02:25:02,710 --> 02:24:59,120
that there would be

3811
02:25:04,870 --> 02:25:02,720
some expression that would push this

3812
02:25:06,550 --> 02:25:04,880
in the public venue and that is what

3813
02:25:08,469 --> 02:25:06,560
they have done

3814
02:25:11,750 --> 02:25:08,479
and i mean their people still say oh

3815
02:25:14,389 --> 02:25:11,760
it's an intelligence community up

3816
02:25:15,429 --> 02:25:14,399
yeah what's the op you know what is the

3817
02:25:17,510 --> 02:25:15,439
op

3818
02:25:19,110 --> 02:25:17,520
to scare the public about aliens to

3819
02:25:21,030 --> 02:25:19,120
increase military spending

3820
02:25:22,630 --> 02:25:21,040
that's a laugh you know i've heard

3821
02:25:24,790 --> 02:25:22,640
people saying this in all seriousness

3822
02:25:27,190 --> 02:25:24,800
and i just laugh i'm like do you know

3823
02:25:29,270 --> 02:25:27,200
anything honestly about how this system

3824
02:25:32,710 --> 02:25:29,280
works and by the way

3825
02:25:34,790 --> 02:25:32,720
no one's no one is talking about an

3826
02:25:36,230 --> 02:25:34,800
alien invasion and i keep hearing

3827
02:25:37,830 --> 02:25:36,240
people still concerned like there's

3828
02:25:39,349 --> 02:25:37,840
going to be a false flag alien invasion

3829
02:25:45,030 --> 02:25:39,359
thing

3830
02:25:46,870 --> 02:25:45,040
if there is an alleged alien invasion

3831
02:25:49,270 --> 02:25:46,880
like independence day type thing

3832
02:25:50,070 --> 02:25:49,280
then that's a false flag like if it

3833
02:25:51,830 --> 02:25:50,080
happens

3834
02:25:53,510 --> 02:25:51,840
then it's a false flag but it's just

3835
02:25:56,790 --> 02:25:53,520
it's not good that they don't

3836
02:25:59,349 --> 02:25:56,800
to create a global totalitarian 24 7

3837
02:26:00,790 --> 02:25:59,359
lot latchkey surveillance state they

3838
02:26:02,150 --> 02:26:00,800
don't need that they're already doing it

3839
02:26:05,830 --> 02:26:02,160
and we're doing it now

3840
02:26:06,950 --> 02:26:05,840
we're doing it well okay so did your

3841
02:26:11,510 --> 02:26:06,960
experience

3842
02:26:14,230 --> 02:26:11,520
of living through 1990 to 1997

3843
02:26:14,630 --> 02:26:14,240
help you with how to handle and deal

3844
02:26:17,670 --> 02:26:14,640
with

3845
02:26:19,830 --> 02:26:17,680
what we're going through today uh

3846
02:26:20,950 --> 02:26:19,840
maybe on a very limited basis i mean in

3847
02:26:22,630 --> 02:26:20,960
those years

3848
02:26:24,230 --> 02:26:22,640
you know i wasn't even into the ufo

3849
02:26:27,110 --> 02:26:24,240
subject for all of those years i didn't

3850
02:26:30,710 --> 02:26:27,120
get into ufos until really 94

3851
02:26:32,389 --> 02:26:30,720
was my first big year and i had a huge

3852
02:26:35,510 --> 02:26:32,399
learning curve i mean i was just

3853
02:26:36,710 --> 02:26:35,520
starting out at ground zero back then 94

3854
02:26:38,389 --> 02:26:36,720
95 96

3855
02:26:40,389 --> 02:26:38,399
and also you know keep in mind i wasn't

3856
02:26:42,150 --> 02:26:40,399
really even following any current

3857
02:26:44,230 --> 02:26:42,160
things i was i was back in the world of

3858
02:26:47,270 --> 02:26:44,240
donald keough and edward rupelt in

3859
02:26:50,309 --> 02:26:47,280
the 1950s and 60s so i was

3860
02:26:52,469 --> 02:26:50,319
actually really woefully ignorant

3861
02:26:53,670 --> 02:26:52,479
of the night what happened in the 90s

3862
02:26:58,309 --> 02:26:53,680
until

3863
02:27:00,710 --> 02:26:58,319
okay i got to get to the

3864
02:27:02,389 --> 02:27:00,720
rest of the story here so i had i had a

3865
02:27:05,590 --> 02:27:02,399
lot of learning ahead of me

3866
02:27:08,550 --> 02:27:05,600
well as a historian when you

3867
02:27:09,590 --> 02:27:08,560
go back and you look at the original set

3868
02:27:12,230 --> 02:27:09,600
of

3869
02:27:13,590 --> 02:27:12,240
uh magic mj12 whatever we want to call

3870
02:27:15,429 --> 02:27:13,600
those those documents

3871
02:27:17,510 --> 02:27:15,439
because now you're looking at the names

3872
02:27:20,469 --> 02:27:17,520
you know where they were

3873
02:27:21,510 --> 02:27:20,479
in the military or the pentagon or

3874
02:27:24,469 --> 02:27:21,520
politically where

3875
02:27:25,429 --> 02:27:24,479
everybody was positioned um and then to

3876
02:27:29,590 --> 02:27:25,439
have

3877
02:27:32,870 --> 02:27:29,600
those go from pretty high profile

3878
02:27:33,910 --> 02:27:32,880
to probably largely hoax documents

3879
02:27:36,710 --> 02:27:33,920
except for are you talking about the

3880
02:27:39,830 --> 02:27:36,720
original mj2 right right right

3881
02:27:41,910 --> 02:27:39,840
yeah and does that uh

3882
02:27:44,230 --> 02:27:41,920
again does that prepare you for a

3883
02:27:45,190 --> 02:27:44,240
letdown look i read those documents over

3884
02:27:49,270 --> 02:27:45,200
and over and over again

3885
02:27:51,110 --> 02:27:49,280
accepted them as the holy grail i did

3886
02:27:52,630 --> 02:27:51,120
you interviewed dodie richard doty on

3887
02:27:54,389 --> 02:27:52,640
this and honestly

3888
02:27:57,030 --> 02:27:54,399
a lot of people complained about him but

3889
02:27:59,910 --> 02:27:57,040
what he said about the mj 12 documents

3890
02:28:01,990 --> 02:27:59,920
struck me as the single most reasonable

3891
02:28:04,150 --> 02:28:02,000
thing that i've heard anyone say

3892
02:28:05,590 --> 02:28:04,160
uh and i'm paraphrasing because you did

3893
02:28:09,510 --> 02:28:05,600
this a number of months ago i

3894
02:28:12,710 --> 02:28:09,520
listened to that and he i think he said

3895
02:28:15,590 --> 02:28:12,720
the inform the phenom the mj12

3896
02:28:16,630 --> 02:28:15,600
is real the documents themselves are our

3897
02:28:18,870 --> 02:28:16,640
fabrication

3898
02:28:20,309 --> 02:28:18,880
but they just they roughly speaking

3899
02:28:22,150 --> 02:28:20,319
describe something that's real

3900
02:28:23,830 --> 02:28:22,160
i think that's how actually how he kind

3901
02:28:26,630 --> 02:28:23,840
of put it and

3902
02:28:28,150 --> 02:28:26,640
frankly that makes sense to me it's like

3903
02:28:30,070 --> 02:28:28,160
you know i describe it often as getting

3904
02:28:33,510 --> 02:28:30,080
an inoculation

3905
02:28:35,270 --> 02:28:33,520
so there's genuine information that's

3906
02:28:37,270 --> 02:28:35,280
out there

3907
02:28:38,630 --> 02:28:37,280
you've had all through the 1970s all

3908
02:28:40,150 --> 02:28:38,640
these

3909
02:28:41,990 --> 02:28:40,160
legitimate documents coming out to

3910
02:28:44,150 --> 02:28:42,000
freedom of information

3911
02:28:45,830 --> 02:28:44,160
and if you're running this secret you

3912
02:28:47,429 --> 02:28:45,840
have no idea

3913
02:28:49,429 --> 02:28:47,439
what might come out and what your

3914
02:28:52,870 --> 02:28:49,439
vulnerabilities are

3915
02:28:54,790 --> 02:28:52,880
so you have to you've got to disable

3916
02:28:57,030 --> 02:28:54,800
this so what do you do

3917
02:28:58,790 --> 02:28:57,040
you create something that looks kind of

3918
02:29:00,230 --> 02:28:58,800
real for a little while

3919
02:29:01,990 --> 02:29:00,240
and then you have your people planted

3920
02:29:05,030 --> 02:29:02,000
like philip j class who

3921
02:29:09,190 --> 02:29:05,040
is working for you and you will

3922
02:29:12,150 --> 02:29:09,200
have him quickly debunk it right

3923
02:29:14,150 --> 02:29:12,160
and so that would debunk not just the

3924
02:29:16,550 --> 02:29:14,160
whole idea of crash retrievals

3925
02:29:19,110 --> 02:29:16,560
for a lot of people but even like the

3926
02:29:20,309 --> 02:29:19,120
legitimacy of government documents

3927
02:29:21,670 --> 02:29:20,319
would come into question for a lot of

3928
02:29:22,790 --> 02:29:21,680
folks those are the two prongs that they

3929
02:29:26,230 --> 02:29:22,800
had to worry about

3930
02:29:27,510 --> 02:29:26,240
you know foia documents and

3931
02:29:30,630 --> 02:29:27,520
guys like leonard stringfield and

3932
02:29:32,710 --> 02:29:30,640
stanton freeman who were dredging up

3933
02:29:34,389 --> 02:29:32,720
some very interesting ufo crash

3934
02:29:38,150 --> 02:29:34,399
retrieval stories at that time

3935
02:29:41,910 --> 02:29:38,160
that was a genuine threat and so

3936
02:29:44,230 --> 02:29:41,920
creating documents that

3937
02:29:45,750 --> 02:29:44,240
could be somehow proven on analysis to

3938
02:29:48,230 --> 02:29:45,760
be fake

3939
02:29:49,190 --> 02:29:48,240
that's how is that beyond the

3940
02:29:49,990 --> 02:29:49,200
intelligence community that's a

3941
02:29:53,750 --> 02:29:50,000
brilliant strategy

3942
02:29:55,990 --> 02:29:53,760
and it's probably what they did probably

3943
02:29:58,230 --> 02:29:56,000
so i think people really are you know we

3944
02:29:59,030 --> 02:29:58,240
just everyone's so black and white about

3945
02:30:01,349 --> 02:29:59,040
this

3946
02:30:03,429 --> 02:30:01,359
and and i just think that's really a

3947
02:30:05,429 --> 02:30:03,439
mistake like there's a lot of nuance

3948
02:30:07,190 --> 02:30:05,439
involved

3949
02:30:08,950 --> 02:30:07,200
i think i was i was talking with i think

3950
02:30:09,429 --> 02:30:08,960
it was butt off actually hal but off who

3951
02:30:11,270 --> 02:30:09,439
said

3952
02:30:13,110 --> 02:30:11,280
yeah this is like a hall of mirrors but

3953
02:30:15,349 --> 02:30:13,120
he's not the only one to say it

3954
02:30:16,150 --> 02:30:15,359
i know right a lot of people is it and

3955
02:30:19,750 --> 02:30:16,160
it is like you're

3956
02:30:22,230 --> 02:30:19,760
in a hall of mirrors and and that is

3957
02:30:24,309 --> 02:30:22,240
as a security precaution like you've you

3958
02:30:26,550 --> 02:30:24,319
have to protect the

3959
02:30:28,790 --> 02:30:26,560
we're talking about let's just get real

3960
02:30:31,670 --> 02:30:28,800
here we're talking about

3961
02:30:33,670 --> 02:30:31,680
something of absolutely foundational

3962
02:30:36,550 --> 02:30:33,680
profound significance

3963
02:30:38,790 --> 02:30:36,560
to our entire globe our entire world and

3964
02:30:42,950 --> 02:30:38,800
civilization and species

3965
02:30:43,910 --> 02:30:42,960
and you know you and i are not in with

3966
02:30:46,389 --> 02:30:43,920
the in-crowd so

3967
02:30:47,910 --> 02:30:46,399
we don't know everything what if what if

3968
02:30:48,510 --> 02:30:47,920
the information that those people have

3969
02:30:52,790 --> 02:30:48,520
is

3970
02:30:54,790 --> 02:30:52,800
there's got to be at least one of these

3971
02:30:56,870 --> 02:30:54,800
groups that is not friendly to us

3972
02:30:58,150 --> 02:30:56,880
every single bit of data points you know

3973
02:31:00,870 --> 02:30:58,160
comes to that

3974
02:31:02,469 --> 02:31:00,880
conclusion one of these groups are not

3975
02:31:05,190 --> 02:31:02,479
our friend

3976
02:31:06,710 --> 02:31:05,200
and if that is true maybe we have

3977
02:31:09,990 --> 02:31:06,720
something to be worried about

3978
02:31:12,630 --> 02:31:10,000
and what how deep does this go

3979
02:31:13,750 --> 02:31:12,640
you know we're talking about us versus

3980
02:31:17,190 --> 02:31:13,760
them but what if they're

3981
02:31:18,950 --> 02:31:17,200
actually down here with us you've got

3982
02:31:22,230 --> 02:31:18,960
david jacobs who's

3983
02:31:24,870 --> 02:31:22,240
basically retired now but he had a whole

3984
02:31:26,550 --> 02:31:24,880
series of books on this exact phenomenon

3985
02:31:27,270 --> 02:31:26,560
human looking beings that are walking

3986
02:31:28,550 --> 02:31:27,280
among us

3987
02:31:30,710 --> 02:31:28,560
did we just forget that that's a

3988
02:31:31,590 --> 02:31:30,720
possibility no it's it's a definite

3989
02:31:34,309 --> 02:31:31,600
possibility

3990
02:31:35,750 --> 02:31:34,319
and so if that's real before we don't

3991
02:31:36,150 --> 02:31:35,760
want to put that information well that's

3992
02:31:38,389 --> 02:31:36,160
right

3993
02:31:39,750 --> 02:31:38,399
and and richard uh as we head to the

3994
02:31:42,870 --> 02:31:39,760
break here there

3995
02:31:45,030 --> 02:31:42,880
i i often ponder this the significance

3996
02:31:47,349 --> 02:31:45,040
of this which is

3997
02:31:49,030 --> 02:31:47,359
somebody gets the you know the document

3998
02:31:49,990 --> 02:31:49,040
somebody gets the thing somebody gets

3999
02:31:52,150 --> 02:31:50,000
the report

4000
02:31:53,750 --> 02:31:52,160
they read that maybe it's the president

4001
02:31:54,710 --> 02:31:53,760
maybe it's a senator maybe it's the head

4002
02:31:57,830 --> 02:31:54,720
of the cia

4003
02:32:00,870 --> 02:31:57,840
i don't know but they read something

4004
02:32:03,910 --> 02:32:00,880
that profoundly scares

4005
02:32:07,110 --> 02:32:03,920
the crap out of them and they will

4006
02:32:10,230 --> 02:32:07,120
never talk about it in public

4007
02:32:12,630 --> 02:32:10,240
ever right it's something like that

4008
02:32:14,230 --> 02:32:12,640
where how come how come we don't have a

4009
02:32:14,870 --> 02:32:14,240
whistleblower how come this hasn't come

4010
02:32:16,630 --> 02:32:14,880
out how

4011
02:32:18,389 --> 02:32:16,640
no they're scared out of their minds out

4012
02:32:18,950 --> 02:32:18,399
of their minds probably scared for their

4013
02:32:20,870 --> 02:32:18,960
lives

4014
02:32:21,990 --> 02:32:20,880
absolutely a hundred percent let's take

4015
02:32:23,030 --> 02:32:22,000
our break right here our guest and i'm

4016
02:32:26,469 --> 02:32:23,040
richard dolan

4017
02:32:27,990 --> 02:32:26,479
we're going to overtime with richard

4018
02:32:29,590 --> 02:32:28,000
bleep and dolan i'm your host jimmy

4019
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host jimmy church tonight richard bleep

4098
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and dolan we are going straight to

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4100
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of dolan conversation tonight and it has

4101
02:36:53,990 --> 02:36:51,040
been an extraordinary conversation and

4102
02:36:56,389 --> 02:36:54,000
we've got to talk about the uap uh task

4103
02:36:58,230 --> 02:36:56,399
force richard in a month

4104
02:36:59,830 --> 02:36:58,240
and i can't believe i'm gonna say this

4105
02:37:01,990 --> 02:36:59,840
but uh

4106
02:37:02,870 --> 02:37:02,000
in a month you and i are gonna be in

4107
02:37:05,670 --> 02:37:02,880
laughlin

4108
02:37:07,349 --> 02:37:05,680
nevada breaking bread at a ufo

4109
02:37:09,429 --> 02:37:07,359
conference in person

4110
02:37:11,750 --> 02:37:09,439
how crazy is it yeah how nice that will

4111
02:37:14,950 --> 02:37:11,760
be it feels strange

4112
02:37:17,670 --> 02:37:14,960
oh man and that month is

4113
02:37:19,590 --> 02:37:17,680
gonna be pretty exciting because uh the

4114
02:37:21,990 --> 02:37:19,600
the conference itself is

4115
02:37:23,349 --> 02:37:22,000
june 6th through the 12th they're

4116
02:37:26,950 --> 02:37:23,359
talking about this

4117
02:37:28,230 --> 02:37:26,960
uh report now being the 24th or the 25th

4118
02:37:30,150 --> 02:37:28,240
of june

4119
02:37:31,590 --> 02:37:30,160
um when it was supposed to be earlier in

4120
02:37:33,349 --> 02:37:31,600
the month which would have been great

4121
02:37:36,469 --> 02:37:33,359
and perfect timing for the conference of

4122
02:37:38,870 --> 02:37:36,479
course maybe we'll get some more leaks

4123
02:37:39,670 --> 02:37:38,880
maybe we'll get some more context of

4124
02:37:42,870 --> 02:37:39,680
what

4125
02:37:45,110 --> 02:37:42,880
may or may not be in this report but

4126
02:37:48,389 --> 02:37:45,120
right now i have to ask the obvious

4127
02:37:52,070 --> 02:37:48,399
question what are you expecting

4128
02:37:54,710 --> 02:37:52,080
i don't know i think there will my guess

4129
02:37:55,990 --> 02:37:54,720
i don't have any inside information here

4130
02:37:58,389 --> 02:37:56,000
like i have no

4131
02:38:00,469 --> 02:37:58,399
genuine insight anything so my opinion

4132
02:38:03,030 --> 02:38:00,479
isn't that valuable

4133
02:38:03,670 --> 02:38:03,040
but i would i would take well honestly

4134
02:38:05,510 --> 02:38:03,680
it's just

4135
02:38:07,510 --> 02:38:05,520
it's as good as anyone else's okay fair

4136
02:38:12,830 --> 02:38:07,520
enough but i i predict

4137
02:38:14,309 --> 02:38:12,840
there will be probably a couple of good

4138
02:38:17,190 --> 02:38:14,319
photographs

4139
02:38:17,830 --> 02:38:17,200
maybe i mean there's rumors of course of

4140
02:38:20,070 --> 02:38:17,840
it of an

4141
02:38:20,950 --> 02:38:20,080
amazing photograph still haven't seen

4142
02:38:23,510 --> 02:38:20,960
this thing

4143
02:38:24,870 --> 02:38:23,520
of an object that supposedly is going

4144
02:38:26,630 --> 02:38:24,880
into or out of the water and it's

4145
02:38:28,870 --> 02:38:26,640
supposed to be a triangle

4146
02:38:30,389 --> 02:38:28,880
i've been hearing about this so that

4147
02:38:33,429 --> 02:38:30,399
would be interesting

4148
02:38:35,830 --> 02:38:33,439
especially if there is data

4149
02:38:37,670 --> 02:38:35,840
attached to that image like that would

4150
02:38:40,870 --> 02:38:37,680
be interesting

4151
02:38:43,190 --> 02:38:40,880
um maybe there'll be some video maybe

4152
02:38:45,510 --> 02:38:43,200
there'll be an interesting report

4153
02:38:47,510 --> 02:38:45,520
but it i think we're gonna we'll end up

4154
02:38:48,630 --> 02:38:47,520
with

4155
02:38:51,750 --> 02:38:48,640
potentially we'll be in the same

4156
02:38:53,990 --> 02:38:51,760
position that we are right now in

4157
02:38:56,309 --> 02:38:54,000
which we'll be we don't know who these

4158
02:38:57,990 --> 02:38:56,319
are we don't have any answers

4159
02:38:59,670 --> 02:38:58,000
and that's ultimately really what's

4160
02:39:01,510 --> 02:38:59,680
going to happen so

4161
02:39:02,950 --> 02:39:01,520
they just may pile on a little bit more

4162
02:39:05,030 --> 02:39:02,960
data but here's the thing that they

4163
02:39:08,070 --> 02:39:05,040
won't do

4164
02:39:09,630 --> 02:39:08,080
one thing that i have been

4165
02:39:11,830 --> 02:39:09,640
really looking into are just

4166
02:39:14,870 --> 02:39:11,840
contemporary

4167
02:39:15,990 --> 02:39:14,880
raw ufo reports there are thousands

4168
02:39:17,590 --> 02:39:16,000
every year

4169
02:39:19,510 --> 02:39:17,600
you know the two big websites that i

4170
02:39:21,429 --> 02:39:19,520
tell everyone about they get the move on

4171
02:39:23,270 --> 02:39:21,439
cms their database and you've got the

4172
02:39:24,469 --> 02:39:23,280
national ufo reporting center run by

4173
02:39:26,469 --> 02:39:24,479
peter davenport

4174
02:39:28,790 --> 02:39:26,479
and combined they get well more in

4175
02:39:31,830 --> 02:39:28,800
excess of 10 000 reports

4176
02:39:35,670 --> 02:39:31,840
distinct reports every year so

4177
02:39:36,870 --> 02:39:35,680
now obviously the vast number of those

4178
02:39:39,750 --> 02:39:36,880
are

4179
02:39:41,670 --> 02:39:39,760
not aliencraft they're not even probably

4180
02:39:43,270 --> 02:39:41,680
black budget there's probably

4181
02:39:45,030 --> 02:39:43,280
you know conventional explanations for

4182
02:39:46,389 --> 02:39:45,040
most of these but some of them you go

4183
02:39:47,030 --> 02:39:46,399
through them there's some very good

4184
02:39:50,830 --> 02:39:47,040
reports

4185
02:39:55,030 --> 02:39:50,840
for example people are not aware of just

4186
02:39:58,070 --> 02:39:55,040
how frequently around the world

4187
02:40:01,110 --> 02:39:58,080
witnesses will say that they saw a

4188
02:40:03,349 --> 02:40:01,120
low quiet hovering

4189
02:40:05,990 --> 02:40:03,359
black triangle at two or three in the

4190
02:40:07,349 --> 02:40:06,000
morning over their neighborhood this

4191
02:40:18,150 --> 02:40:07,359
happens

4192
02:40:19,190 --> 02:40:18,160
remember a report i think from the

4193
02:40:20,790 --> 02:40:19,200
indonesia

4194
02:40:22,150 --> 02:40:20,800
like people from around the world are

4195
02:40:23,429 --> 02:40:22,160
now reporting these things to these

4196
02:40:25,269 --> 02:40:23,439
american websites

4197
02:40:27,030 --> 02:40:25,279
especially new fork the national ufo

4198
02:40:31,110 --> 02:40:27,040
reporting center

4199
02:40:35,429 --> 02:40:31,120
my point is something

4200
02:40:37,990 --> 02:40:35,439
very significant around the world

4201
02:40:39,590 --> 02:40:38,000
is being perceived by witnesses

4202
02:40:45,110 --> 02:40:39,600
everywhere

4203
02:40:46,550 --> 02:40:45,120
i'm quite interested in these low

4204
02:40:48,950 --> 02:40:46,560
triangles because there's just

4205
02:40:50,469 --> 02:40:48,960
so many of these reports so obvious

4206
02:40:51,190 --> 02:40:50,479
question who the hell is flying these

4207
02:40:53,030 --> 02:40:51,200
triangles

4208
02:40:54,550 --> 02:40:53,040
is this a black budget operation what

4209
02:40:56,870 --> 02:40:54,560
are they doing over some

4210
02:40:58,230 --> 02:40:56,880
tiny little australian village on the

4211
02:41:01,429 --> 02:40:58,240
other side of the world

4212
02:41:03,429 --> 02:41:01,439
doing what occasionally shining a light

4213
02:41:07,590 --> 02:41:03,439
down like they're looking for something

4214
02:41:11,110 --> 02:41:07,600
or in all these other parts of the world

4215
02:41:13,510 --> 02:41:11,120
is this is this a global us

4216
02:41:14,950 --> 02:41:13,520
thing here what in god's name are they

4217
02:41:17,429 --> 02:41:14,960
doing at two in the morning three in the

4218
02:41:20,630 --> 02:41:17,439
morning clearly trying to be

4219
02:41:23,510 --> 02:41:20,640
as minimally detected as possible

4220
02:41:25,590 --> 02:41:23,520
so i'll guarantee you those are not

4221
02:41:28,830 --> 02:41:25,600
going to be in the uap task force report

4222
02:41:31,349 --> 02:41:28,840
and not even a tiny fraction of the

4223
02:41:32,309 --> 02:41:31,359
genuinely perplexing ufo reports are

4224
02:41:35,670 --> 02:41:32,319
going to be in this thing

4225
02:41:38,150 --> 02:41:35,680
because if they actually covered this

4226
02:41:39,910 --> 02:41:38,160
like just talk about the military cases

4227
02:41:41,429 --> 02:41:39,920
they've got satellites

4228
02:41:44,630 --> 02:41:41,439
we know they've got they've got an

4229
02:41:46,710 --> 02:41:44,640
incredible satellite system that

4230
02:41:48,309 --> 02:41:46,720
undoubtedly can detect things that that

4231
02:41:51,030 --> 02:41:48,319
ordinary people have no knowledge of

4232
02:41:52,630 --> 02:41:51,040
they've got electronic instrumentation

4233
02:41:54,389 --> 02:41:52,640
we've learned about this you know

4234
02:41:56,710 --> 02:41:54,399
from the tic tac siding to the roosevelt

4235
02:41:58,550 --> 02:41:56,720
to the channel islands

4236
02:41:59,990 --> 02:41:58,560
they've got very sophisticated

4237
02:42:01,670 --> 02:42:00,000
instrumentation do you think we're going

4238
02:42:04,790 --> 02:42:01,680
to see much of that

4239
02:42:07,910 --> 02:42:04,800
let's think again they can

4240
02:42:11,190 --> 02:42:07,920
only provide the tiniest

4241
02:42:12,150 --> 02:42:11,200
sliver of this mountain of data because

4242
02:42:15,510 --> 02:42:12,160
if they actually

4243
02:42:18,230 --> 02:42:15,520
provide everything that they get are you

4244
02:42:19,510 --> 02:42:18,240
kidding do you realize how big that

4245
02:42:22,870 --> 02:42:19,520
would be

4246
02:42:23,590 --> 02:42:22,880
and how massive a data dump that would

4247
02:42:27,750 --> 02:42:23,600
be

4248
02:42:29,910 --> 02:42:27,760
they did it but i

4249
02:42:31,110 --> 02:42:29,920
in no way expect that so they're going

4250
02:42:33,830 --> 02:42:31,120
to have to do

4251
02:42:34,469 --> 02:42:33,840
a significant cherry picking it seems to

4252
02:42:36,309 --> 02:42:34,479
me

4253
02:42:37,910 --> 02:42:36,319
to have a report that's actually of a

4254
02:42:38,710 --> 02:42:37,920
manageable size so that they don't get

4255
02:42:41,349 --> 02:42:38,720
overwhelmed

4256
02:42:44,309 --> 02:42:41,359
by public inquiry do you imagine if they

4257
02:42:45,990 --> 02:42:44,319
dropped like a thousand page report

4258
02:42:48,309 --> 02:42:46,000
that was just packed with all of these

4259
02:42:49,349 --> 02:42:48,319
sightings they could easily they could

4260
02:42:52,389 --> 02:42:49,359
probably drop a 10

4261
02:42:53,429 --> 02:42:52,399
000 page report sure right it's not

4262
02:42:55,269 --> 02:42:53,439
going to happen

4263
02:42:56,389 --> 02:42:55,279
now maybe the classified version will

4264
02:42:58,150 --> 02:42:56,399
because we know there will be a

4265
02:42:59,590 --> 02:42:58,160
classified version

4266
02:43:01,429 --> 02:42:59,600
and there's going to be an unclassified

4267
02:43:03,510 --> 02:43:01,439
version so okay

4268
02:43:05,110 --> 02:43:03,520
maybe who knows what they will do in the

4269
02:43:06,950 --> 02:43:05,120
classified version

4270
02:43:08,389 --> 02:43:06,960
but presumably we're not going to get to

4271
02:43:11,510 --> 02:43:08,399
see that one now

4272
02:43:14,710 --> 02:43:11,520
so many in the ufo community and

4273
02:43:21,830 --> 02:43:17,990
are hoping that there

4274
02:43:24,550 --> 02:43:21,840
is going to be a mention

4275
02:43:26,710 --> 02:43:24,560
a vt there's going to be something you

4276
02:43:31,349 --> 02:43:26,720
know i'm talking about an interstellar

4277
02:43:35,190 --> 02:43:31,359
visitor here in this report

4278
02:43:37,269 --> 02:43:35,200
will is that is that even close to being

4279
02:43:39,670 --> 02:43:37,279
possible

4280
02:43:40,870 --> 02:43:39,680
well i think it's true but i don't think

4281
02:43:44,070 --> 02:43:40,880
it's going to be

4282
02:43:44,710 --> 02:43:44,080
released no you know i was just

4283
02:43:48,309 --> 02:43:44,720
reviewing

4284
02:43:50,790 --> 02:43:48,319
um it was an interview i just saw today

4285
02:43:52,230 --> 02:43:50,800
of timothy good from 2014 it was just

4286
02:43:54,070 --> 02:43:52,240
released yesterday it was

4287
02:43:55,990 --> 02:43:54,080
like a guy an interview with regina

4288
02:43:58,630 --> 02:43:56,000
meredith who was amazing

4289
02:43:59,910 --> 02:43:58,640
and tim gave this very interesting 20

4290
02:44:02,230 --> 02:43:59,920
minute thing

4291
02:44:04,070 --> 02:44:02,240
just again it's brand new on youtube and

4292
02:44:05,830 --> 02:44:04,080
i commented on this for my website so

4293
02:44:08,550 --> 02:44:05,840
it's kind of fresh in my mind

4294
02:44:10,870 --> 02:44:08,560
but he i mean first of all timothy good

4295
02:44:13,990 --> 02:44:10,880
is just absolutely magnificent

4296
02:44:14,550 --> 02:44:14,000
and he's talking about a number of

4297
02:44:16,630 --> 02:44:14,560
things and

4298
02:44:17,990 --> 02:44:16,640
one of his sources of information he's

4299
02:44:19,750 --> 02:44:18,000
he was at the point here in 2014

4300
02:44:21,670 --> 02:44:19,760
we just like screw it i'm just gonna say

4301
02:44:24,710 --> 02:44:21,680
what's on my mind i don't really care

4302
02:44:26,150 --> 02:44:24,720
so one of the things was he was quite

4303
02:44:27,910 --> 02:44:26,160
certain that

4304
02:44:30,950 --> 02:44:27,920
uh the united states government has been

4305
02:44:34,550 --> 02:44:30,960
in direct communication with at least

4306
02:44:35,670 --> 02:44:34,560
one highly superior kind of alien

4307
02:44:38,070 --> 02:44:35,680
civilization

4308
02:44:40,309 --> 02:44:38,080
that we're in regular contact with and

4309
02:44:43,510 --> 02:44:40,319
he explicitly said the united states

4310
02:44:47,190 --> 02:44:43,520
government he didn't say anyone else

4311
02:44:50,070 --> 02:44:47,200
and you know i can't

4312
02:44:50,870 --> 02:44:50,080
check tim good's source on this but i

4313
02:44:55,670 --> 02:44:50,880
know the man

4314
02:44:58,790 --> 02:44:55,680
and i know just how good and careful

4315
02:45:00,950 --> 02:44:58,800
and brave he is and if he says that i'm

4316
02:45:03,110 --> 02:45:00,960
going to take that seriously

4317
02:45:04,309 --> 02:45:03,120
so there's there's there's a depth to

4318
02:45:06,710 --> 02:45:04,319
this that goes

4319
02:45:07,830 --> 02:45:06,720
so far beyond the scratching your head

4320
02:45:09,190 --> 02:45:07,840
and thinking we don't know what these

4321
02:45:11,110 --> 02:45:09,200
things are

4322
02:45:14,469 --> 02:45:11,120
it's a it's a convenient fiction like

4323
02:45:17,990 --> 02:45:14,479
you can understand why they say this

4324
02:45:20,150 --> 02:45:18,000
because this is a political act

4325
02:45:23,190 --> 02:45:20,160
like when you've got guys like

4326
02:45:25,750 --> 02:45:23,200
christopher mellon or luis elizondo or

4327
02:45:27,510 --> 02:45:25,760
anyone else like talking about this does

4328
02:45:27,990 --> 02:45:27,520
anyone honestly expect them to say oh

4329
02:45:30,070 --> 02:45:28,000
yeah like

4330
02:45:31,110 --> 02:45:30,080
we know that the aliens are here and

4331
02:45:34,070 --> 02:45:31,120
they're doing things

4332
02:45:34,870 --> 02:45:34,080
like they can't say that it's impossible

4333
02:45:36,630 --> 02:45:34,880
for them

4334
02:45:38,150 --> 02:45:36,640
to say that as public people and still

4335
02:45:40,710 --> 02:45:38,160
be able to maintain

4336
02:45:41,990 --> 02:45:40,720
communication with members of congress

4337
02:45:43,910 --> 02:45:42,000
which they're trying to do or

4338
02:45:45,510 --> 02:45:43,920
with the with the mass media which

4339
02:45:49,750 --> 02:45:45,520
they're trying to do like

4340
02:45:51,990 --> 02:45:49,760
they they've got to play a game and

4341
02:45:53,269 --> 02:45:52,000
but people have to realize that so

4342
02:45:56,150 --> 02:45:53,279
they're kind of stuck

4343
02:45:57,590 --> 02:45:56,160
but it's a game you know our world is an

4344
02:46:00,230 --> 02:45:57,600
inherently dishonest

4345
02:46:02,389 --> 02:46:00,240
world these days like we our news is

4346
02:46:03,990 --> 02:46:02,399
inherently dishonest

4347
02:46:05,590 --> 02:46:04,000
in that like things happen and no one

4348
02:46:06,309 --> 02:46:05,600
can actually say the truth about things

4349
02:46:07,990 --> 02:46:06,319
anymore

4350
02:46:09,349 --> 02:46:08,000
we're in a true era of the emperor's new

4351
02:46:11,110 --> 02:46:09,359
clothes and

4352
02:46:13,349 --> 02:46:11,120
and so one of one of many of those

4353
02:46:14,070 --> 02:46:13,359
things concerns ufos and the ufo reality

4354
02:46:17,590 --> 02:46:14,080
that every

4355
02:46:20,309 --> 02:46:17,600
everyone by now who's looked into this

4356
02:46:21,510 --> 02:46:20,319
has certain things that they're pretty

4357
02:46:24,710 --> 02:46:21,520
pretty certain

4358
02:46:25,990 --> 02:46:24,720
that is going on a

4359
02:46:28,070 --> 02:46:26,000
there are objects that have been

4360
02:46:31,030 --> 02:46:28,080
traversing the skies and oceans

4361
02:46:31,830 --> 02:46:31,040
and orbit of this planet for more than

4362
02:46:33,750 --> 02:46:31,840
70 years

4363
02:46:36,550 --> 02:46:33,760
minimum probably longer but at least

4364
02:46:37,910 --> 02:46:36,560
that time that we cannot explain

4365
02:46:40,309 --> 02:46:37,920
like this doesn't just start with the

4366
02:46:42,870 --> 02:46:40,319
tic tac 2004 like this goes

4367
02:46:44,070 --> 02:46:42,880
all the way back and we don't know how

4368
02:46:47,190 --> 02:46:44,080
to do that

4369
02:46:48,710 --> 02:46:47,200
uh b it looks like aliens at least in

4370
02:46:51,190 --> 02:46:48,720
some capacity

4371
02:46:53,349 --> 02:46:51,200
and like every when you talk to these

4372
02:46:56,389 --> 02:46:53,359
people who have clearances who

4373
02:46:57,510 --> 02:46:56,399
know who know a few things they all

4374
02:46:59,269 --> 02:46:57,520
conclude this

4375
02:47:01,269 --> 02:46:59,279
now if you read uh some of the

4376
02:47:03,910 --> 02:47:01,279
statements of like eric davis who's

4377
02:47:05,190 --> 02:47:03,920
super fascinating and very very

4378
02:47:08,950 --> 02:47:05,200
brilliant

4379
02:47:12,070 --> 02:47:08,960
he he is dropping a lot of bombs here

4380
02:47:14,550 --> 02:47:12,080
and he's talking about

4381
02:47:16,309 --> 02:47:14,560
like the fact that this is got an

4382
02:47:17,510 --> 02:47:16,319
intelligence a conscious i mean here's a

4383
02:47:19,190 --> 02:47:17,520
guy who was at the

4384
02:47:20,870 --> 02:47:19,200
skinwalker ranch of course so he's had

4385
02:47:23,110 --> 02:47:20,880
that whole thing but that

4386
02:47:24,710 --> 02:47:23,120
they're operating on a an intelligence

4387
02:47:27,670 --> 02:47:24,720
that is

4388
02:47:29,590 --> 02:47:27,680
levels beyond what we can operate on and

4389
02:47:31,830 --> 02:47:29,600
and almost as if it's like an

4390
02:47:33,590 --> 02:47:31,840
interdimensional thing like you

4391
02:47:35,110 --> 02:47:33,600
you kind of get this from him sometimes

4392
02:47:37,670 --> 02:47:35,120
but it's physical

4393
02:47:39,750 --> 02:47:37,680
but they're not from this reality

4394
02:47:40,070 --> 02:47:39,760
however we can even define what reality

4395
02:47:48,070 --> 02:47:40,080
is

4396
02:47:51,110 --> 02:47:48,080
into those

4397
02:47:53,429 --> 02:47:51,120
circles those people are

4398
02:47:54,630 --> 02:47:53,439
in they're dealing with a conception of

4399
02:47:57,269 --> 02:47:54,640
reality that is so

4400
02:48:01,429 --> 02:47:57,279
far beyond the little elementary school

4401
02:48:04,469 --> 02:48:01,439
level that we get spoon-fed by the media

4402
02:48:06,309 --> 02:48:04,479
you know so i just i'm not expecting i'm

4403
02:48:07,990 --> 02:48:06,319
not expecting a major revelation i'm

4404
02:48:09,429 --> 02:48:08,000
expecting you know i'm expecting maybe a

4405
02:48:11,110 --> 02:48:09,439
couple of decent photographs that will

4406
02:48:13,030 --> 02:48:11,120
go oh wow that's interesting

4407
02:48:14,469 --> 02:48:13,040
and they will be interesting and then

4408
02:48:16,710 --> 02:48:14,479
but they won't be enough to convince the

4409
02:48:20,150 --> 02:48:16,720
skeptics because nothing ever is

4410
02:48:21,349 --> 02:48:20,160
nothing ever is they they try to act

4411
02:48:23,190 --> 02:48:21,359
like they're open-minded but it's

4412
02:48:24,469 --> 02:48:23,200
obvious they've got severe biases just

4413
02:48:26,550 --> 02:48:24,479
as severe or more

4414
02:48:28,389 --> 02:48:26,560
than hardcore ufo believers and we've

4415
02:48:29,190 --> 02:48:28,399
got our biases too we better be aware of

4416
02:48:31,670 --> 02:48:29,200
that

4417
02:48:32,950 --> 02:48:31,680
like everyone's got a bias i have to

4418
02:48:34,950 --> 02:48:32,960
check my biases

4419
02:48:37,190 --> 02:48:34,960
but the skeptics they clearly have got

4420
02:48:40,389 --> 02:48:37,200
it so nothing's going to work with them

4421
02:48:40,950 --> 02:48:40,399
now those uh those images uh that were

4422
02:48:42,630 --> 02:48:40,960
part of

4423
02:48:45,190 --> 02:48:42,640
you know let's go with air quotes the

4424
02:48:48,389 --> 02:48:45,200
leak a couple of weeks ago

4425
02:48:49,429 --> 02:48:48,399
one of them yeah that's going to be part

4426
02:48:52,950 --> 02:48:49,439
of this report

4427
02:48:54,389 --> 02:48:52,960
uh that and i i believe uh susan gow did

4428
02:48:56,710 --> 02:48:54,399
confirm that these were part of the

4429
02:48:58,389 --> 02:48:56,720
uaptf report that were leaked and there

4430
02:49:01,830 --> 02:48:58,399
were these images

4431
02:49:05,349 --> 02:49:01,840
confirmed by susan one of them

4432
02:49:08,870 --> 02:49:05,359
the other two but the one

4433
02:49:11,830 --> 02:49:08,880
that george knapp identifies

4434
02:49:13,510 --> 02:49:11,840
as the blimp that one's got me

4435
02:49:14,309 --> 02:49:13,520
scratching my head that's the one where

4436
02:49:18,070 --> 02:49:14,319
i look at that

4437
02:49:22,150 --> 02:49:18,080
and i say to myself ah-ha

4438
02:49:23,429 --> 02:49:22,160
that looks that doesn't look like ours

4439
02:49:25,349 --> 02:49:23,439
that the one that looked interesting to

4440
02:49:27,510 --> 02:49:25,359
me was the ones described as i think was

4441
02:49:28,630 --> 02:49:27,520
the spheroid it looked kind of weird but

4442
02:49:29,830 --> 02:49:28,640
some people said that might have been a

4443
02:49:32,790 --> 02:49:29,840
photo effect

4444
02:49:34,070 --> 02:49:32,800
yeah yeah that didn't intrigue me not as

4445
02:49:36,070 --> 02:49:34,080
much as this

4446
02:49:37,590 --> 02:49:36,080
i don't know why it's being called the

4447
02:49:41,750 --> 02:49:37,600
blimp because i don't see

4448
02:49:45,670 --> 02:49:41,760
blimp in that uh maybe that has to do

4449
02:49:48,550 --> 02:49:45,680
how would a blimp navigate that well

4450
02:49:50,469 --> 02:49:48,560
right and it doesn't look like a blimp

4451
02:49:53,030 --> 02:49:50,479
maybe it's the way the pilots

4452
02:49:55,349 --> 02:49:53,040
observed it maybe it was stationary

4453
02:49:56,469 --> 02:49:55,359
maybe it was moving like a balloon and a

4454
02:49:58,950 --> 02:49:56,479
blimp

4455
02:50:01,269 --> 02:49:58,960
and that's the way it's being described

4456
02:50:03,590 --> 02:50:01,279
in this report and that's what

4457
02:50:05,110 --> 02:50:03,600
was told what's that you know what would

4458
02:50:08,309 --> 02:50:05,120
really suck

4459
02:50:11,830 --> 02:50:08,319
what's that what would suck is

4460
02:50:13,349 --> 02:50:11,840
if this thing that leaked yes i just

4461
02:50:16,710 --> 02:50:13,359
said suck on yesterday

4462
02:50:18,309 --> 02:50:16,720
yes you did if if the leak was the

4463
02:50:20,150 --> 02:50:18,319
like the best evidence that they had i

4464
02:50:21,830 --> 02:50:20,160
know that's my fear

4465
02:50:23,750 --> 02:50:21,840
wouldn't that be awful that would be

4466
02:50:26,309 --> 02:50:23,760
awful i was gonna ask you the same thing

4467
02:50:26,790 --> 02:50:26,319
what if that is is the best of the

4468
02:50:29,429 --> 02:50:26,800
report

4469
02:50:31,269 --> 02:50:29,439
then you'd have to ask yourself was the

4470
02:50:32,950 --> 02:50:31,279
leak by design

4471
02:50:34,790 --> 02:50:32,960
as a way to just disable the whole thing

4472
02:50:36,870 --> 02:50:34,800
and just take the wind out of it

4473
02:50:37,990 --> 02:50:36,880
because that really would do it stop it

4474
02:50:41,269 --> 02:50:38,000
right there

4475
02:50:43,030 --> 02:50:41,279
if this is the best that they've got

4476
02:50:45,030 --> 02:50:43,040
and i'm not trying to demean it because

4477
02:50:46,070 --> 02:50:45,040
it's still i'm not here i'm not

4478
02:50:49,190 --> 02:50:46,080
debunking

4479
02:50:51,349 --> 02:50:49,200
that video you're harder on it than i am

4480
02:50:53,670 --> 02:50:51,359
but i'm also i'm not saying it's totally

4481
02:50:55,269 --> 02:50:53,680
legit but i'm not saying it's

4482
02:50:56,950 --> 02:50:55,279
it's what the skeptics say either i

4483
02:50:59,670 --> 02:50:56,960
don't i don't know and i

4484
02:51:00,950 --> 02:50:59,680
frankly i'm not qualified scientifically

4485
02:51:02,790 --> 02:51:00,960
to make that determination

4486
02:51:04,150 --> 02:51:02,800
the best that i can do is listen to

4487
02:51:05,830 --> 02:51:04,160
other smart people

4488
02:51:07,830 --> 02:51:05,840
and make my own decisions that's really

4489
02:51:08,550 --> 02:51:07,840
all that i can sure sure sure but but my

4490
02:51:12,230 --> 02:51:08,560
point is

4491
02:51:14,630 --> 02:51:12,240
if that's the best even even if that's

4492
02:51:15,910 --> 02:51:14,640
decent information it will take the wind

4493
02:51:19,190 --> 02:51:15,920
out of the sales because

4494
02:51:20,150 --> 02:51:19,200
it already got leaked and people in june

4495
02:51:23,990 --> 02:51:20,160
are going to be expecting

4496
02:51:25,349 --> 02:51:24,000
more than this yes yes and if they don't

4497
02:51:27,429 --> 02:51:25,359
get much more or if they don't get

4498
02:51:28,389 --> 02:51:27,439
anything that's better that's going to

4499
02:51:30,469 --> 02:51:28,399
be a major lead

4500
02:51:32,469 --> 02:51:30,479
you don't want marco rubio yes yes you

4501
02:51:35,030 --> 02:51:32,479
don't want marco rubio

4502
02:51:36,790 --> 02:51:35,040
up there in the fine walnut desk looking

4503
02:51:39,990 --> 02:51:36,800
down at you

4504
02:51:42,950 --> 02:51:40,000
is this the best you got

4505
02:51:43,990 --> 02:51:42,960
is this it and you're right it just

4506
02:51:45,990 --> 02:51:44,000
stops right there

4507
02:51:47,110 --> 02:51:46,000
yeah the train runs off the track visual

4508
02:51:48,950 --> 02:51:47,120
basis

4509
02:51:51,190 --> 02:51:48,960
now let's let's not make light up the

4510
02:51:52,309 --> 02:51:51,200
channel islands incidents

4511
02:51:54,950 --> 02:51:52,319
that's what i'm calling them i don't

4512
02:51:58,550 --> 02:51:54,960
know about other people from in 2019

4513
02:52:01,670 --> 02:51:58,560
these are very significant and

4514
02:52:03,190 --> 02:52:01,680
just because those objects didn't

4515
02:52:05,590 --> 02:52:03,200
display

4516
02:52:08,230 --> 02:52:05,600
obvious like classical ufo things like

4517
02:52:10,550 --> 02:52:08,240
right angle turns as far as we know

4518
02:52:13,429 --> 02:52:10,560
or like the the tic tac acceleration

4519
02:52:14,790 --> 02:52:13,439
that commander fraver reported you know

4520
02:52:16,389 --> 02:52:14,800
clearly what was multiple thousands of

4521
02:52:16,870 --> 02:52:16,399
miles per hour so they're not showing

4522
02:52:20,469 --> 02:52:16,880
that

4523
02:52:23,590 --> 02:52:20,479
but they did show some very intrepid

4524
02:52:26,710 --> 02:52:23,600
and robust capabilities that's for

4525
02:52:30,070 --> 02:52:26,720
darn sure they're able to

4526
02:52:31,110 --> 02:52:30,080
up directly hover over u.s navy

4527
02:52:35,030 --> 02:52:31,120
destroyers

4528
02:52:38,309 --> 02:52:35,040
multiple times like during

4529
02:52:40,790 --> 02:52:38,319
exercises at night come on

4530
02:52:42,870 --> 02:52:40,800
why didn't they maybe why didn't the

4531
02:52:46,070 --> 02:52:42,880
navy fire on him

4532
02:52:48,230 --> 02:52:46,080
you got me i wasn't there i don't know i

4533
02:52:49,750 --> 02:52:48,240
i on my website i got some amazing

4534
02:52:51,269 --> 02:52:49,760
people on my site and

4535
02:52:52,870 --> 02:52:51,279
one i think he was former navy is like

4536
02:52:54,469 --> 02:52:52,880
look you got guys with rifles

4537
02:52:56,309 --> 02:52:54,479
all i have to do is just shoot the thing

4538
02:52:58,070 --> 02:52:56,319
right they could take it down

4539
02:52:59,830 --> 02:52:58,080
right and then on top of that they've

4540
02:53:01,269 --> 02:52:59,840
got an array of

4541
02:53:02,870 --> 02:53:01,279
highly sophisticated electronic

4542
02:53:04,550 --> 02:53:02,880
equipment that should be able to jam

4543
02:53:07,990 --> 02:53:04,560
those things

4544
02:53:08,389 --> 02:53:08,000
and enough to take them down so i mean

4545
02:53:12,950 --> 02:53:08,399
that's

4546
02:53:16,309 --> 02:53:12,960
what i'm told so none of that happened

4547
02:53:18,630 --> 02:53:16,319
you've got you know it's the aegis uh

4548
02:53:20,389 --> 02:53:18,640
uh electronic warfare system which i had

4549
02:53:20,710 --> 02:53:20,399
to learn about at in the aftermath of

4550
02:53:22,309 --> 02:53:20,720
this

4551
02:53:25,349 --> 02:53:22,319
like probably many people did it's like

4552
02:53:28,309 --> 02:53:25,359
what's this it's a highly sophisticated

4553
02:53:29,429 --> 02:53:28,319
potent system that they've got on these

4554
02:53:32,150 --> 02:53:29,439
the most

4555
02:53:32,870 --> 02:53:32,160
sophisticated of anything on this planet

4556
02:53:35,750 --> 02:53:32,880
yeah

4557
02:53:38,230 --> 02:53:35,760
right it's amazing and they are totally

4558
02:53:41,429 --> 02:53:38,240
apparently defeated by these what drones

4559
02:53:44,710 --> 02:53:41,439
these little chinese drones

4560
02:53:47,110 --> 02:53:44,720
well okay but i want to go back uh

4561
02:53:49,830 --> 02:53:47,120
we've just got a little bit of time left

4562
02:53:50,710 --> 02:53:49,840
um and i know i it sounds like sometimes

4563
02:53:54,230 --> 02:53:50,720
i'm i'm

4564
02:53:57,349 --> 02:53:54,240
poo pooing on on all of this i am not

4565
02:53:58,389 --> 02:53:57,359
and that blimp photograph i keep saying

4566
02:54:01,429 --> 02:53:58,399
blimp because that's

4567
02:54:03,190 --> 02:54:01,439
nap's uh uh word for it

4568
02:54:04,710 --> 02:54:03,200
yeah but it probably isn't a blemish

4569
02:54:06,150 --> 02:54:04,720
it's not a blimp no

4570
02:54:08,389 --> 02:54:06,160
it's gonna filled with air just

4571
02:54:10,630 --> 02:54:08,399
lumbering about floating in the sky

4572
02:54:11,910 --> 02:54:10,640
that is a great photograph man that's a

4573
02:54:14,630 --> 02:54:11,920
great image

4574
02:54:16,469 --> 02:54:14,640
it is i think it's mandalorian i think

4575
02:54:16,950 --> 02:54:16,479
it's mandalorian richard i do i think

4576
02:54:18,070 --> 02:54:16,960
it's bad

4577
02:54:19,670 --> 02:54:18,080
i don't watch that show i don't watch

4578
02:54:20,790 --> 02:54:19,680
the mandalorian i don't know what you

4579
02:54:21,349 --> 02:54:20,800
should watch it you're going to see

4580
02:54:24,469 --> 02:54:21,359
matthew

4581
02:54:27,590 --> 02:54:24,479
disney channel i think that's on disney

4582
02:54:30,710 --> 02:54:27,600
yes man freak disney i said freak

4583
02:54:33,670 --> 02:54:30,720
that's it but um and then

4584
02:54:34,070 --> 02:54:33,680
today i posted in twitter you probably

4585
02:54:36,150 --> 02:54:34,080
saw

4586
02:54:37,590 --> 02:54:36,160
this photograph brad harris and you know

4587
02:54:40,469 --> 02:54:37,600
brad and he's uh

4588
02:54:42,790 --> 02:54:40,479
my personal photographer brad sends me

4589
02:54:46,150 --> 02:54:42,800
this image of san clemente island

4590
02:54:48,550 --> 02:54:46,160
taken today uh right there off the coast

4591
02:54:51,750 --> 02:54:48,560
of california showing two

4592
02:54:54,230 --> 02:54:51,760
u.s navy warships

4593
02:54:55,830 --> 02:54:54,240
four and a half miles from san clemente

4594
02:54:59,429 --> 02:54:55,840
island out there doing

4595
02:55:02,150 --> 02:54:59,439
something in the area where all of this

4596
02:55:05,429 --> 02:55:02,160
is going down and you have to ask

4597
02:55:08,950 --> 02:55:05,439
yourself what is the u.s navy doing here

4598
02:55:11,110 --> 02:55:08,960
i don't know they're looking for flying

4599
02:55:14,230 --> 02:55:11,120
toasters richard they're looking for

4600
02:55:15,750 --> 02:55:14,240
but but yeah you know and i i know that

4601
02:55:15,990 --> 02:55:15,760
there's something going on we just have

4602
02:55:18,630 --> 02:55:16,000
to

4603
02:55:20,309 --> 02:55:18,640
figure it out tyler rogoway i just want

4604
02:55:22,550 --> 02:55:20,319
to bring this i know we're wrapping up

4605
02:55:23,910 --> 02:55:22,560
he made i mean a number of really

4606
02:55:24,950 --> 02:55:23,920
excellent points in his article one

4607
02:55:27,030 --> 02:55:24,960
thing he

4608
02:55:29,750 --> 02:55:27,040
stated was that look if you want to do

4609
02:55:33,349 --> 02:55:29,760
espionage in the united states navy

4610
02:55:33,830 --> 02:55:33,359
you've got two golden opportunities here

4611
02:55:35,990 --> 02:55:33,840
you've got

4612
02:55:36,870 --> 02:55:36,000
off the southern coast of california

4613
02:55:38,150 --> 02:55:36,880
where he said

4614
02:55:39,670 --> 02:55:38,160
it's almost like they've got bankers

4615
02:55:40,870 --> 02:55:39,680
hours there like they're just totally

4616
02:55:42,389 --> 02:55:40,880
regular

4617
02:55:43,990 --> 02:55:42,399
reliable like you know they're going to

4618
02:55:44,790 --> 02:55:44,000
be there that's what they do their

4619
02:55:46,230 --> 02:55:44,800
testing

4620
02:55:48,309 --> 02:55:46,240
and then the other is off the eastern

4621
02:55:49,190 --> 02:55:48,319
coast uh i i guess off somewhere off of

4622
02:55:52,150 --> 02:55:49,200
norfolk

4623
02:55:53,349 --> 02:55:52,160
so those two areas and you just you know

4624
02:55:54,950 --> 02:55:53,359
to go there

4625
02:55:56,830 --> 02:55:54,960
but that could apply not just to the

4626
02:55:59,750 --> 02:55:56,840
chinese or the russians that could apply

4627
02:56:02,150 --> 02:55:59,760
to anyone else

4628
02:56:04,630 --> 02:56:02,160
that's not earthly or that's not

4629
02:56:05,830 --> 02:56:04,640
fundamentally of this civilization

4630
02:56:07,990 --> 02:56:05,840
it doesn't have to just apply to the

4631
02:56:09,830 --> 02:56:08,000
chinese it could apply

4632
02:56:11,750 --> 02:56:09,840
literally it could apply to aliens why

4633
02:56:12,870 --> 02:56:11,760
why wouldn't it why would they not be

4634
02:56:15,990 --> 02:56:12,880
interested

4635
02:56:17,349 --> 02:56:16,000
in something new

4636
02:56:20,950 --> 02:56:17,359
that the united states navy might be

4637
02:56:23,590 --> 02:56:20,960
doing i mean we have an entire history

4638
02:56:24,870 --> 02:56:23,600
of these objects hanging out over

4639
02:56:27,910 --> 02:56:24,880
nuclear facilities

4640
02:56:30,630 --> 02:56:27,920
u.s russian and others they

4641
02:56:32,070 --> 02:56:30,640
this is what they do are we going to say

4642
02:56:35,590 --> 02:56:32,080
that those are also

4643
02:56:37,830 --> 02:56:35,600
uh early 1960s versions of soviet drones

4644
02:56:39,750 --> 02:56:37,840
like you know it's kind of ridiculous

4645
02:56:40,550 --> 02:56:39,760
this is a long-standing phenomenon

4646
02:56:43,910 --> 02:56:40,560
wouldn't they be

4647
02:56:48,070 --> 02:56:43,920
equally as interested in elon musk and

4648
02:56:50,790 --> 02:56:48,080
spacex and their testing in texas

4649
02:56:52,630 --> 02:56:50,800
yeah why not where are those videos you

4650
02:56:54,309 --> 02:56:52,640
know the eyewitness i don't know yeah

4651
02:56:56,950 --> 02:56:54,319
maybe there are i mean i don't i don't

4652
02:56:59,269 --> 02:56:56,960
know i don't know

4653
02:57:00,469 --> 02:56:59,279
um or maybe they're not or maybe we just

4654
02:57:01,590 --> 02:57:00,479
don't have the data we don't have the

4655
02:57:05,510 --> 02:57:01,600
information i

4656
02:57:08,630 --> 02:57:05,520
i don't know but i do think that

4657
02:57:10,710 --> 02:57:08,640
there's a long history of ufos and i

4658
02:57:12,550 --> 02:57:10,720
still like using that phrase i do too

4659
02:57:13,990 --> 02:57:12,560
of yeah engaging with the united states

4660
02:57:15,190 --> 02:57:14,000
military i mean this is an entire

4661
02:57:16,950 --> 02:57:15,200
history of this

4662
02:57:19,750 --> 02:57:16,960
the thing that one thing that frustrates

4663
02:57:23,910 --> 02:57:19,760
me since 2017

4664
02:57:26,630 --> 02:57:23,920
and you know any kind of mainstreamish

4665
02:57:29,750 --> 02:57:26,640
conversation it it acts as if there were

4666
02:57:31,590 --> 02:57:29,760
no ufos before 2004 before the tic tac

4667
02:57:33,349 --> 02:57:31,600
it's like like on rogan and i mean

4668
02:57:34,790 --> 02:57:33,359
everyone likes rogue and he's fun to

4669
02:57:36,790 --> 02:57:34,800
listen to but

4670
02:57:38,309 --> 02:57:36,800
it's like come on man like this was a

4671
02:57:40,309 --> 02:57:38,319
phenomenon that went back

4672
02:57:41,429 --> 02:57:40,319
decades and by the way there were

4673
02:57:45,750 --> 02:57:41,439
tic-tac-like

4674
02:57:48,550 --> 02:57:45,760
objects being seen back in the 1930s

4675
02:57:50,150 --> 02:57:48,560
i found one such report from up in the

4676
02:57:53,030 --> 02:57:50,160
middle of nowhere in canada

4677
02:57:53,510 --> 02:57:53,040
from 1936 but then you've got the 1940s

4678
02:57:54,950 --> 02:57:53,520
when

4679
02:57:56,550 --> 02:57:54,960
scientists are over at white sands

4680
02:57:58,550 --> 02:57:56,560
testing these things and they

4681
02:57:59,990 --> 02:57:58,560
testing missiles with theodolites and

4682
02:58:01,190 --> 02:58:00,000
instrumentation and they're tracking

4683
02:58:03,910 --> 02:58:01,200
ufos

4684
02:58:05,990 --> 02:58:03,920
that are moving at 9 000 miles per hour

4685
02:58:09,269 --> 02:58:06,000
basically tic tac speed

4686
02:58:09,910 --> 02:58:09,279
and they had good enough information

4687
02:58:11,110 --> 02:58:09,920
that there's

4688
02:58:13,830 --> 02:58:11,120
there was no question about what they

4689
02:58:16,550 --> 02:58:13,840
were tracking so this is a

4690
02:58:18,309 --> 02:58:16,560
long-standing phenomenon and there's no

4691
02:58:20,469 --> 02:58:18,319
sense of history

4692
02:58:21,750 --> 02:58:20,479
and and i think that damages our ability

4693
02:58:23,110 --> 02:58:21,760
to understand what's happening now

4694
02:58:25,349 --> 02:58:23,120
because we have this idea

4695
02:58:26,469 --> 02:58:25,359
oh well it's just black budget well all

4696
02:58:28,150 --> 02:58:26,479
right fine

4697
02:58:30,710 --> 02:58:28,160
but does that mean we had black budget

4698
02:58:34,389 --> 02:58:30,720
doing this in in the 1940s or even

4699
02:58:35,429 --> 02:58:34,399
prior frankly i mean maybe but i don't

4700
02:58:38,469 --> 02:58:35,439
think so

4701
02:58:40,630 --> 02:58:38,479
a lot to hang your hand on with that

4702
02:58:43,750 --> 02:58:40,640
type of argument

4703
02:58:47,190 --> 02:58:43,760
so that this is like for me the

4704
02:58:48,309 --> 02:58:47,200
alien agenda is front and center on the

4705
02:58:52,790 --> 02:58:48,319
table

4706
02:58:55,190 --> 02:58:52,800
and we ignore it at the risk of

4707
02:58:55,830 --> 02:58:55,200
falling into falsehoods and going down

4708
02:58:58,230 --> 02:58:55,840
dead ends

4709
02:59:00,230 --> 02:58:58,240
things like that it's not that we're not

4710
02:59:01,190 --> 02:59:00,240
building our own craft i think that we

4711
02:59:03,269 --> 02:59:01,200
are

4712
02:59:04,950 --> 02:59:03,279
again i'm talking about this on my may

4713
02:59:07,670 --> 02:59:04,960
20th

4714
02:59:08,790 --> 02:59:07,680
ufo secrecy in the changing world but i

4715
02:59:11,429 --> 02:59:08,800
i am talking about

4716
02:59:12,870 --> 02:59:11,439
classified corporate attempts to

4717
02:59:14,870 --> 02:59:12,880
replicate this technology and i think

4718
02:59:18,070 --> 02:59:14,880
they've gone very far

4719
02:59:21,190 --> 02:59:18,080
so there is that but

4720
02:59:23,590 --> 02:59:21,200
look there is a non-human

4721
02:59:24,230 --> 02:59:23,600
origin to a lot of these sightings

4722
02:59:27,590 --> 02:59:24,240
that's just

4723
02:59:29,429 --> 02:59:27,600
was what tim good said in this

4724
02:59:30,950 --> 02:59:29,439
nice new interview that got published it

4725
02:59:32,790 --> 02:59:30,960
was really kind of neat

4726
02:59:35,030 --> 02:59:32,800
and i think people have looked into this

4727
02:59:37,510 --> 02:59:35,040
seriously understand that

4728
02:59:39,110 --> 02:59:37,520
to my opinion richard thank you so much

4729
02:59:41,990 --> 02:59:39,120
man what another

4730
02:59:43,510 --> 02:59:42,000
great conversation you're the best and i

4731
02:59:46,389 --> 02:59:43,520
look forward to seeing you of course at

4732
02:59:48,309 --> 02:59:46,399
ufo megacon june 6th through the 12th

4733
02:59:50,790 --> 02:59:48,319
everything that richard is doing go over

4734
02:59:51,910 --> 02:59:50,800
to richardpress.com of course follow him

4735
02:59:53,510 --> 02:59:51,920
on twitter

4736
02:59:55,269 --> 02:59:53,520
all of his information there and he's

4737
02:59:57,590 --> 02:59:55,279
got this event on

4738
02:59:58,550 --> 02:59:57,600
may 20th as well richard thank you so

4739
03:00:01,269 --> 02:59:58,560
much

4740
03:00:01,830 --> 03:00:01,279
and uh we'll circle back once again i'll

4741
03:00:03,750 --> 03:00:01,840
just mention

4742
03:00:05,510 --> 03:00:03,760
it's normally original in members where

4743
03:00:08,630 --> 03:00:05,520
i'd actually do my work

4744
03:00:10,389 --> 03:00:08,640
richard dolan members that's actually

4745
03:00:11,670 --> 03:00:10,399
the main place but i always thank you

4746
03:00:13,750 --> 03:00:11,680
and by the way you were really nice you

4747
03:00:15,510 --> 03:00:13,760
just kind of let me do my thing again

4748
03:00:17,269 --> 03:00:15,520
we always do thank you man it's just

4749
03:00:19,590 --> 03:00:17,279
another great conversation

4750
03:00:21,349 --> 03:00:19,600
and uh and and again just be safe out

4751
03:00:22,870 --> 03:00:21,359
there thank you so much richard

4752
03:00:24,630 --> 03:00:22,880
and thank you for all that you do for

4753
03:00:26,150 --> 03:00:24,640
this community and thank you to the

4754
03:00:29,110 --> 03:00:26,160
listeners you've got a great

4755
03:00:29,670 --> 03:00:29,120
crew people the fader knots are awesome

4756
03:00:32,469 --> 03:00:29,680
you're the best

4757
03:00:33,190 --> 03:00:32,479
richard have a great night man richard

4758
03:00:35,910 --> 03:00:33,200
dolan

4759
03:00:36,469 --> 03:00:35,920
there you go two and a half hours of

4760
03:00:38,150 --> 03:00:36,479
richard

4761
03:00:40,550 --> 03:00:38,160
bleep and dolan i'm your host jimmy

4762
03:00:41,269 --> 03:00:40,560
church thank you to everybody that hung

4763
03:00:44,710 --> 03:00:41,279
out tonight

4764
03:00:48,950 --> 03:00:44,720
and again this show was dedicated

4765
03:00:51,670 --> 03:00:48,960
to kevin korber tomorrow night

4766
03:00:52,790 --> 03:00:51,680
it's fader night but it's remembering

4767
03:00:54,550 --> 03:00:52,800
the life of

4768
03:00:56,790 --> 03:00:54,560
kevin kerber then all of that is

4769
03:00:58,630 --> 03:00:56,800
tomorrow night fade to black's executive

4770
03:01:00,230 --> 03:00:58,640
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4771
03:01:01,110 --> 03:01:00,240
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4772
03:01:05,750 --> 03:01:01,120
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4773
03:01:07,670 --> 03:01:05,760
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4774
03:01:11,590 --> 03:01:07,680
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4775
03:01:13,670 --> 03:01:11,600
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4776
03:01:15,429 --> 03:01:13,680
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4777
03:01:16,710 --> 03:01:15,439
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4778
03:01:18,550 --> 03:01:16,720
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4779
03:01:20,790 --> 03:01:18,560
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4780
03:01:23,030 --> 03:01:20,800
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4781
03:01:25,030 --> 03:01:23,040
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4782
03:01:27,269 --> 03:01:25,040
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4783
03:01:30,309 --> 03:01:27,279
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4784
03:01:31,830 --> 03:01:30,319
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4785
03:01:33,349 --> 03:01:31,840
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4786
03:01:35,510 --> 03:01:33,359
block of the game changer network i'm

4787
03:01:37,990 --> 03:01:35,520
your host jimmy church

4788
03:01:39,030 --> 03:01:38,000
tomorrow night fader nights remembering

4789
03:01:41,510 --> 03:01:39,040
the life of

4790
03:01:43,110 --> 03:01:41,520
kevin kerber until then i want everybody

4791
03:01:49,000 --> 03:01:43,120
to be safe

4792
03:01:58,770 --> 03:01:49,010
it's time to fade to black